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“Mistakenly, we thought that by just introducing artificial intelligence and adjusting the design requirements that we had, that that would produce a high-quality product,” said Charles Poon, VP of vehicle hardware engineering, in a briefing this week with reporters.

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[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 156 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Lol. Probably got bonuses then celebrated for identifying the issue and fixing it.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Heh, a few weeks back a new project manager at my work held a meeting about an upcoming project, and half the team was able to say the timeline was workable, but the specifics the project manager laid out would lead to disaster, and we just had to adjust the strategy, but still have same time and same cost. We spelled out exactly what would go wrong and how, based on previous attempts to do it the way he said. It was scheduled to be a weeklong project, which would have been a fine timeline.

He got stubborn, insisted that based on his research his approach was right, and while he would have us on standby in the unlikely event of a problem, he would largely outsource the project to a company that agreed with his plan.

So the project started Monday, and based on past experience we expected to be called into action on Tuesday morning and have to hustle, or maybe Tuesday end of day and really get overworked to close it in time. So Friday comes along and we are shocked that it must be going ok since we hadn't heard anything. 4pm rolls around, the project manager calls us in a panic saying it's all gone nowhere, zero progress made, and he has escalated to make sure we take over and now we had to make the Monday morning deadline, or our asses are screwed. Everyone worked their asses off, a couple didn't sleep the whole weekend.

So in a followup call, the project manager said "no one could have predicted it would go so badly", and then an email came out from executive team congratulating the project manager for making the project work despite challenging circumstances.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I hope the team was paid a nice overtime fee. Otherwise they should have just let it fail.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, salaried, so not 'overtime' per se, but at least I walked away with a bonus equivalent to about 4 months pay. Not solely due to that one incident, but that incident put things over the top.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Good for you.

Here in Belgium, with salary contracts, there is still a calculated daily pay, IIRC it is monthly salary / 22.

If I work on a non-work day, I get 150% of this for a Saturday or 200% of it for a Sunday or public holiday.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

sounds like a layoff is coming if they are doing this.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Well, it's complicated. Basically my team has done this sort of work for a long time, but for a different market segment. This is a new market segment, but with respect to our work it acts the same. However executives don't understand that, so they spun up another organization to deal. Further, the company that was supposed to do it instead of us had brand recognition in the market despite being terrible at the part of the work that we know how to do.

So we weren't being replaced, we were seen as not relevant to this "new" market. That vendor wasn't going to touch our market with a thousand foot pole.

What we seem to be settling into is for us to do it our usual way, then hand over to that revered company to finish it in a way to cash in on brand recognition and admittedly do things a bit more particular for that market after our usual jobs are done.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would literally go "Nope, no going to happen, you deal with you making promises with estimates you yourself made up instead of listening to the experts".

In fact, I've already done this in the past.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This as a good example of how people fail upwards.

If he had listened to us from the onset, this would have proceeded, he would have been maybe casually acknowledged for a solid enough job, business as usual even though the money in play was abnormally astronomical, leadership would have just taken this part of the business for granted.

Because he didn't listen, he created a disaster. Because the disaster had just unimaginably large amounts of money attached with just stupid amounts more potential money in followup business, the executives were panicked. The ability to recover it on schedule suddenly they appreciated it, and he manages to bask in the spotlight.

Ok, so what if we had left him out to dry? We probably would have been fired. He probably would have too, but declining to assist and risking millions of dollars of business screws you too.

The upside? Well, this was noteworthy because this was the first time in many years I had to lose a weekend, so it's not super common. To the extent stuff like this happens more regularly, it usually isn't this bad and is more annoying but on normal business hours. This also happened close to review cycles, and was fantastic relevant information to hold over management so while I didn't get broad recognition, I did walk away with the second largest bonus of my career. Also the project manager learned the lesson and his standard game plan for this sort of thing is now consistent with what we said. He fails upward, but at least he's an ally for the foreseeable future.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Sounds like you need a union

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

The true mark of experience

[–] Womble@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago

If you have concerns like that always express them in an email as well as verbally, not only is it good for covering your own ass if you weren't able to pull it out the fire (tbh I think you shouldn't have busted your ass to make it work), but its also going to make people less likely to claim that unearned credit for your heroic work if you do.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That would make me quit on the spot. No notice. No explanation. Just get up and leave and not say any word to anyone.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago

its probably designed to make people "constructively dimissed."

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

I’d sit there and work a shift, and tell them it’ll be ready in the week that I estimated at the kickoff.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago

No matter what, the parasites in the big club always fail upwards.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

*Underpaying someone else to fix it.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

trust me no, the follow up is often an overpay

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

For the work that's being done, the people doing the work are most definitely underpaid.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 13 hours ago

mixed, i’ve seen them get massively overpaid but it was a short gig until fixed

in no way a good thing for the worker though cause they are still out of a job after