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[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The A pillars (the pillar between the windshield and driver/passenger door window) have gotten so massive due to airbag requirements that it blocks a significant view angle. It used to be that they were an inch wide.

[–] lemmysir@lemmy.zip 0 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I'd rather have the airbag and have to move my head a bit to see than not have the bags. Surely driving instructors teach students that it is a blindspot of a sort and that you should keep it in mind, no?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'll agree that its a good component to have. I couldn't say about driving instructors, for me that was about 25 years ago when I was driving a car from the early 90s that had the thinner pillars. I keep my head on a swivel while driving, but just as easily I've had a car or pedestrian pop up that I don't see right off the bat in that blind spot, especially turning at an intersection.

[–] lemmysir@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. Some intersections are hard. I go through one daily that has a bike lane with a green light to cross a street while my turn rightinto that street light is also green. That means bikers may be aproaching from behind me at a weird angle, i hate that one. It is a balancing act I guess, safety for the driver and passengers vs visibility. Though nowadays you have all the new tech with sensors and cameras and the car basically yells at you that you're going to hit something so I guess that is not terrible.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

IMO that is sheer incompetence on the part of the traffic engineer who designed it.

[–] lemmysir@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, but remaking it is probably too expensive for the town sadly. It has been complained about

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

They don't have to rebuild the intersection; they just have to redo the signal timing so that the thru green for the bike lane isn't in the same phase as the right turn green for the general purpose lane. (Okay, so they might have to add a right arrow signal head too. Still, cheaper than new pavement.)

They just don't want to do it because it would probably reduce level of service for cars and they don't care enough about cyclists' safety to make that trade-off.

[–] lemmysir@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

That is probably true sadly. Getting things changed sometimes seems impossible

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Surely driving instructors teach students that it is a blindspot of a sort and that you should keep it in mind, no?

Drivers Ed is a month for a teenager or a handful of lessons...

The only thing I remember from drivers Ed was when another student was told to turn right up ahead, replied "yep" and then just didn't do it.

When the instructed asked why not, the kid accelerated and said he didn't want to turn.

Scary as fuck. But everything else I was told decades ago I can't remember.

And that's not even getting into how much vehicles have changed in the last couple decades. Especially when the topic involves the continued increase in size in trucks...

You think a boomer remembers what they were told in the 1980s during drivers Ed and will be able to extrapolate the changes to modern vehicles on their own?

Quick edit:

Besides all that, you're putting a distracted drivers "safety" after hitting a pedestrian in a giant truck over them being able to not hit a pedestrian.

You know what's safer for a driver? An Abrams tank.

Your line of logic is literally why trucks keep getting bigger and why were in this fucking mess

[–] lemmysir@lemmy.zip 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Woah, relax. I didn't mention a thing about careless drivers hitting pedestrians, or trucks. I was just pointing out that airbags overall are good, even if you're supposed to put a little extra effort while driving.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This is like if someone said smoking crack in an elementary school is bad...

And you said it's important for people to relax sometimes.

What you said was fine in isolation, just not in the context of the discussion you wandered into and didn't understand

[–] lemmysir@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago

Ok. I literally responded to the a-pillar comment, but it's fine. I don't wnt to engage further, thnks for your insights.

[–] lemmysir@lemmy.zip 0 points 17 hours ago

Different countries i guess. Driving lessons last a while over here, and there is an actual test at the end of it that is very easy to fail. But I understand your point and agree with what you're saying about the drivers not appreciating the differences between then and now.