this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2024
404 points (97.2% liked)

Technology

62853 readers
5469 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Ek said Spotify employees were doing too much "work around the work" as he laid off 17% of the group's workforce in December.

all 45 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 133 points 10 months ago (3 children)

CEO does not understand who is doing work

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago

surely not the workers

all they do is sit in front of their desks for hours

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's two parts to being successful at a job: successfully accomplishing the work that fits into your role, and successfully messaging to your bosses that you're doing a good job.

So when executives lay people off, it tends to catch people who are bad at that second task (the messaging/perception side), which may or may not include people who are good at the first task (actually doing good shit for the company).

That's why mass layoffs are damaging, and should be avoided if possible.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Layoffs also shake every other employee in an immeasurable way.

Even if you didn't lay someone off they may now change their priorities. Maybe they focus on the people pleaser tasks. Maybe they focus more on what is good for them to keep their job vs what is good for the company.

Layoffs should be a last resort but tech companies are just playing follow the leader right now. In a few years we'll see memoirs and books stating "in hindsight we may have made a mistake, but we made the best decision we could with the information we had at the time", it's all absolutely bullshit. This is all being done for a temporary stock boost.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The CEO can't apparently effectively communicate to his staff what the workflow priorities of the company should be and he's blaming them for basically contributing to that workflow "inefficiently" because he's a bad leader who obviously didn't lay off the right people (middle managers).

Additionally he's promising shareholders a pipedream he's having trouble delivering on because they do not have control over the continued and rising cost of licensing and nobody seems to want to do anything at all about that. The whole industry is over a barrel and they just accept it. And so do we as consumers.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Once Spotify changed their entire UI to focus on engagement instead of a good UX, I switched to another service. I wish the best for those employees that were laid off, and the worst for a CEO driven by profit above all else

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

May I ask what service you switched to? I'm tired of my music app being cluttered with podcasts and audio books. I use other services for this things and don't need them in Spotify.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I switched to tidal. Recently had a huge price drop to compete with Spotify and Apple Music. It’s not perfect, but it has lossless audio, and works well for my needs

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I started using Tidal when I learned they where the ones who pay the artists the most. I don't know if it's still true today tho.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah that was part of my motivation as well. I’m unsure how that will change now with their significant price drop, I was happy paying the previous prices, as it was like the cost of buying 3 $10 CDs a month, and I listened to considerably more music than that

[–] fsr1967@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does tidal have the feature Spotify does where you can transfer what's playing from one device to another? I use that somewhat frequently.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah you can do the same thing as Spotify and change the output on the fly within the app

[–] fsr1967@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[–] TeNppa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does the switching really work? I've been eyeing Tidal since Spotify is shit at that. Too many times I get "can't play this song" when switching from pc to mobile or vice versa. Sometimes it won't even switch and I have to force close both, which is not possible when I'm outside and not near the pc.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hmm, I don’t use the feature frequently, but it hasn’t failed on me. I can say that I use CarPlay frequently, and Tidal’s CarPlay implementation is a thousand times more reliable than Spotify, so when it comes to device based implementations they seem to have done a great job.

Looks like they offer a free trial, https://offer.tidal.com/ so I would say probably best to pilot it with that and see if it suites your needs

EDIT:

Testing on my app, it doesn’t seem to do what you want to do. You can select different output devices seamlessly, but you can switch between two clients the way Spotify can, sorry for the misunderstanding. Hope you find something that works for you

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use Deezer. It also has podcasts but they don't shove it up your face, in fact I just checked and I don't even see them on the app's home screen. I have to specifically search for them.

I use Deezer too. The only thing I miss is being able to bookmark my favorite radio stations. It's so weird that we don't have that yet!

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Qbittorrent LMAO. Also some Russian music hosting sites that appear as quickly as they get taken down.

Newpipe for when I don't need 320kbps, such as podcasts.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So he's about to rehire all those people he laid off, right? Surely he's not just saying this, but still expecting everyone who's left to cover all the work he's surprised by. Surely he knew these details before he fucked over a bunch of workers, right?

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Pizza Party Fridays (5 pm - midnight, hackathon and 1/2 off pizza (plus tax))

Attendance mandatory!

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Absolutely not and he’s learned nothing

“It took us some time to find our footing, but more than four months into this transition, I think we’re back on track and I expect to continue improving on our execution throughout the year getting us to an even better place than we’ve ever been.”

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (2 children)

LOL they want 30 a month too

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 89 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean it’s called fortune not broke ass \s

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 49 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I want to subscribe to broke ass magazine

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

costs only an email address and a promise to sign up for a 37% APY credit card.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

You're thinking of Cracked

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

You can't afford it

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago
[–] tedu@azorius.net 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

The full quote if you don't want to read the article.

Another significant challenge was the impact of December workforce reduction. Although there’s no question that it was the right strategic decision, it did disrupt our day-to-day operations more than we anticipated. It took us some time to find our footing, but more than four months into this transition, I think we’re back on track and I expect to continue improving on our execution throughout the year getting us to an even better place than we’ve ever been.

And the full transcript of the earnings call if you want to read the whole thing.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4685308-spotify-technology-s-spot-q1-2024-earnings-call-transcript

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, it's from an earnings call so it is trying to put everything in the best possible light. I wonder how much fan-splattered shit he is glossing over in that statement.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Exactly

I can heae beyond his buzzwords that what he means is that thibgs are awful and morale is low, and that he hopes it is now over but we all know it isn't.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It took us some time to find our footing, but more than four months into this transition, I think we’re back on track

Did they save more money by firing those employees than they lost in the murky transition? It certainly doesn't seem like it.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The full quote if you don't want to read the article.

Or can't afford to.

I ain't giving some random news website more money than I pay monthly for my Internet connection just to read some article about Spotify, they can go screw xD

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago

Well, at least they gave them 5 months severance pay.

Didn't expect that

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Might I suggest the Spotify employees unionize or better yet.. US tech workers. That way they can make a fist and punch this guy in the proverbial dick.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They were in the process of unionising in Sweden, when the layoffs dropped. Some months later, Spotify cancelled talks about the proposed collective agreement, insisting a statement that Spotify employees don’t need unions because their working conditions are already exceedingly generous.

(A bit of background: workplace collective agreements are commonplace in Sweden. Spotify, though, seems to have tried to import US union-busting practices, not unlike Tesla.)

[–] snek@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

And let's not get started on 'Employer Unions' like ALMEGA (which in my head is synonymous with Satan)

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hows that going for Tesla? Havent heard anything about that since the license plates

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As of a few weeks ago, the strike is still going, with everyone from cleaners to electricians refusing to work for Tesla.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They should make sure to get the sanitation workers on board.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 18 points 10 months ago

I don’t know if I could live with myself knowing how many lives I ruined, maybe that’s why the shit floats to the top. Sane people are not as accomplished because they “don’t make the tough decisions”.