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I want to talk about our gateway products to open source. You know, that one product or software that made us go, "Whoa, this is amazing!" and got us hooked on the world of open source.

What made you to jump ships? Was it the "free" side of things like qBittorrent? Did you even know that some of your programs are open source before you got into the topic?

For me those products were:

  • Android
  • Firefox
  • VLC
  • Calibre

Am thinking to order some merch and I wanna make it more accessible to people unfamilliar with open source culture. Now, am looking for fairly normalized but still underrepresented product -- maybe it could serve as a conversation starter and push some people to open source

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[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 38 points 1 year ago

My roommate installed Ubuntu on my laptop when I was in college. That was the start. Now it looks like this: https://xkcd.com/456/

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 34 points 1 year ago

Like other people have said, I've used open-source software for decades without thinking about it, but what really made me think about it as a concept was when I got into Skyrim modding, and I saw the exorbitant subscription fees of Photoshop and then learned through that community about GIMP. Then, I started learning more about things like privacy and more tangible effects of corporate greed, and gradually switched to more alternatives.

However, I personally never tried a FOSS OS until the last couple months when someone on Lemmy talked me into trying Linux. I always thought it was only for people with high levels of technical skills, but it turns out there are distros that are extremely accessible to users like myself.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Linux. I think I started playing with it around 2001. I was a computer nerd on high school and I wanted to be a hacker. I would be lying if I said that The Matrix wasn't a big factor. To this day I use black console with green text.

[–] graphito@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago
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[–] seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

For me it was first VLC without really knowing what FOSS was, then KeePass while getting to know a bit about it, and finally Thunderbird. What did it for me was just how good and bullshit-free they were, especially in comparison to paid competitors. They really are the best products in their field, proving the quality often behind FOSS software.

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[–] twilightmeow@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

Using linux as an alternative to windows and really enjoying it.

[–] privsecfoss@feddit.dk 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox and VLC on Windows for years, which just worked. Later XBMC/Kodi and fileserver which where s... on windows but, again, just worked on Linux. When Windows later on kept nagging for something I migrated to 100% Open Source and have been a happy camper ever since!

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Getting a free Ubuntu live CD back in 2007 when I was a teenager. We had the shittiest internet, I think it was like 512kbps ADSL, so it was really hard to download software. No one I knew at the time was into linux or open source, so I learnt about it all from that Ubuntu CD and the smaller programs I downloaded with it once setting it up. I learnt GRUB and dual-booted it on the laptop I had for school.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There really wasn't a specific gateway product, and I'm still using closed and open source solutions back to back.

User experience and user interface are more important to me than open source. The only consideration I have beyond that would be privacy & security.

For instance I've always used Firefox and rejected Chrome due to data privacy concerns, and would use a portable chromium installation if a website was inaccessible with FF. On the other hand side MS Office and Photoshop are vastly superior to libre office and gimp.

When it comes to applications I use once in a blue moon for a few minutes at a time, I'll usually go for FOSS, but moreso because it's free and the UI can be as ugly as it wants if I don't have to stare at it for hours on end.

And well, I absolutely despise Apple as a company, so using Android was pretty much without alternatives, after BlackBerry discontinued their OS.

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[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Although I technically used OSS before (ie Firefox), Linux (Ubuntu) is what made me actually start caring about it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can't even remember... It was probably when I first heard about Linux in the early/mid 90's. I got Slackware in 93 or 94 and fascinated by the idea in general.

Hell, if might even have started before that when I was first learning to read and read through our encyclopedia collection like bedtime stories (I was obsessed with reading anything in print once I learned how). I know that's how I learned about the internet.

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[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 7 points 1 year ago

For me it was a combination of factors: Windows has been going down the shitter for at least 10 years now, FOSS software has been getting better and better, and I've learned to use more FOSS tools as I grew tired of dealing with Windows.

If I had to point at one project that made me go "Wow, this is amazing", I'd say ffmpeg. Even in my Windows days, I've always enjoyed digital preservation, when I discovered ffmpeg around 2015 it was an eye opener, so many features, so many options, I've been using it on a daily basis ever since.

[–] Toast@lemmy.film 7 points 1 year ago

Apache. This was over 20 years ago. The web server that everyone seemed to be using was free to download and open source. That made a big impact on how I viewed free software, and encouraged me to use more of it.

[–] words_number@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

My first contact to FOSS were probably Firefox, Open Office (before libre office existed) and Gimp.

[–] peterg75@discuss.online 7 points 1 year ago

Gimp, OpenOffice.org, VLC, Slackware, and on and on after that. Every flavor of Linux: RedHat, SuSe, Ubuntu, now on Manjaro and Endeavour.

[–] klangcola@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

Firefox 1.0

Not only was it better than IE6, it was also free! Not sure how aware I was of the libre aspect initially, but around the same time I also dabled in (Mandrake? Mandriva?) Linux, which exposed me to GNU, GPL, and the idea of copyleft.

And then there was VLC.

[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 year ago

Not my first libre product, but definitely the one that got me into searching for libre alternatives - OpenOffice. Despite not being great at the time (or ever), i was amazed by how complicated microsoft turned 365Office into. I suddenly had to buy subscriptions to all of the office products for outrages prices just so that i can have a simple words editors? Screw that, i googled for "open source office software" and never came back to m$Office.

[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 year ago

Nothing, I didn't think much of it or cared if something was open source or not. It's when I started to become privacy conscious I started to care, though one program in my childhood that I actually thought was cool but not necessarily because open source was 7-zip - it's free winrar that worked better for me.

[–] TerryTPlatypus@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

For me, Blender was probably my very first introduction into FOSS. I was using it because it was free, but I also liked the concept behind having a useful software the people used everyday to make cool projects like movies and animated shows. I did a project on it in. What really got me down the rabbithole was Debian. I had come across it in computer class, and I really liked the interface. i did more research and came to love Debian for being a stable distro run by the community. From thereit's history.

[–] somenonewho@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago
  • OpenOffice
  • Firefox
  • Thunderbird
[–] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

The first FOSS product I ever used would have been either Firefox or OpenOffice.org, back in ~2010. I also used to like VLC.

The product that got me to go almost exclusively FOSS, however, was Linux Mint. I installed it on an old ThinkPad that my uncle had given me in 2019, and I was immediately impressed that this twelve-year-old notebook with (at the time) 4GB of RAM and an Intel Centrino processor could now easily outperform my brand new HP (which ran Windows).

It was only about a year later when I installed Mint on my HP, followed by my old Acer (which had been on a shelf for the last two years), and most recently my 2007 MacBook (which I keep around because it's the only thing that can operate my scanner).

[–] tc43@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slackware Linux, on a bunch of floppies. Oh man, when did I get old?

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[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Simply because I haven't seen it mentioned yet: 7-zip
But realistically VLC and Firefox

This question has really got me thinking about the old days! I thought that it was looking into Debian Linux when trying to repurpose some old IBM PS/2 machines at work, because there were rumors of patchsets for the Linux kernel to support the MicroChannel Architecture bus and ESDI drives. But now I remember that it was actually GeekGadgets, a Unix environment for Amiga based around the ixemul.library. That's where I first read the GPL, and admired its legal Jiu-Jitsu of using copyright laws to ensure freedom.

I've never been a Windows user on my own machines as a result. I just went from Amiga, to FreeBSD, to Ubuntu.

[–] christopherius@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I don't remember how I heard about it but you used to be able to order free Ubuntu disks. I got them to mail me one and I replaced Windows with it and never looked back.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I can't say I actually recall. My dad was a software developer and into open source software so I was around a lot of that growing up. Firefox was my first web browser, OpenOffice writer was my first document processor. My dad installed some open source games on an Ubuntu machine for me to play. It was a little bit of everything.

[–] gatelike@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got pulled in after hearing the term "copyleft". Red hat 6 was out (version numbering scheme has changed since then). I was a teen and into skateboarding and punk so I was attracted to this legal document that used the system against the system. I became a Linux evangelist to fight back against Steve Ballmer and big bad Microsoft. Felt good to have a glimmer of hope.

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[–] relevantnanana@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still remember how Firefox's tabbed browsing blew my mind.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Opera had it YEARS prior. Back when they were an actual browser and not just another chrome frontend.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mhm my first FOSS was probably The Gimp two or so decades ago. Previous to that I used Corel Draw and Paint Shop Pro. Suse Linux on a CD followed soon after as a test, but it didn't hold me for long.

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[–] Sharmat@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I started first in 2012-ish with Linux. That’s when I first heard of it, and decided to spin an VM with Ubuntu 12.04. Though initially I didn’t use it in real hardware for sometime, eventually I did install Fedora and been pretty happy ever since. Nowadays mostly use openSUSE and Arch.

[–] deliux@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Windows. More specially a netbook with vista, that ran so incredibly slow ot of the box that it pushed me to install linux. Technically i used Firefox before that, but that was when Firefox was the de facto standard in Germany, so i didn't care about FOSS.

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Blender 2.9.3 LTS

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

First foss product I remember using was VLC, but what made me start seeking out Foss was F-droid with how I got tired of constantly trying to find something without unnecessary permissions, ads, or IAP.

That was what made me understand the true value of foss, and not just because something isn't paid with the intent of profiting doesn't mean it is worse. It can sometimes be much better and more respecting of your privacy with how hungry for telemetry companies are these days.

[–] MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I came across Linux sometime in the late 90's. It was free (as in pricetag, which is all I cared about at the time) and different so I was curious. The PC I was using wasn't mine so repartitioning wasn't an option but I found some ready to go boot from dos linux distro and gave it a go. And I loved it! And still do.

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[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

VLC but it wasn't love at first sight, but it opened a whole new world of FOSS to me

To this day I still don't know why the fuss about VLC, I prefer MPC-HC

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[–] regalia@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago

Probably Linux. It took me a couple of attempts, but at a certain point I got more motivated to stick with it and research how to fix problems instead of quitting it. That gave me a lot of general Linux knowledge to where it's much comfier now.

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Funny enough it was Windows.
Year of our Lord 2015, Microsoft was pushing for Windows 10, I was using 7 and wanted to keep doing so. One of the last updates completely broke my system, so I said "fuck it", backed up my files and installed Ubuntu.
From that moment on I gradually abandoned proprietary software at the point that today I live almost completely on FOSS.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] gloriousPingu@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

For me those products are:

  • Linux
  • Firefox
  • Bitwarden
  • Libreoffice
[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My computer suddenly died when I was an unemployed student, about 12 years ago. I had no money for a new one or repairs, etc. It was pretty devastating.

Then I somehow discovered my city's local Freegeek, (the one in Vancouver BC) - I was able to buy an refurbished Ubuntu tower for $35. They showed me how to use it, invited me back if I needed help, and were generally super kind and helpful.

It was a very nice introduction to the world of open source. I had no clue such a thing as free software and OS even existed before then. Ive been using linux ever since, as much as possible.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 4 points 1 year ago

Apache Web Server

[–] NaoPb@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Firefox for sure.

[–] sag@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

For me-

  • Linux
  • F-Droid
[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Emacs. That was the first editor I touched on my university's Fedora. And then I read that it had forks, was customizable with Lisp. I then read more about the Unix community and so on. That was interesting.

[–] Tunawithshoes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Android. I grew up with old phones where you chased the new trend but you always lost something or you where limited to what manufacturer’s limited idea. This one has good ring tones. this has amazing camera. This got real games. This one has music buttons. This one has apps(not really apps but back then impressive for a phone)

Updates did not exist what you got in box was what you got. suddenly this device comes out where you could do anything.

I could install real Linux, community supported software and made it better. This was my gateway because why should I accept to pay money when the moment I given you money you moved on and forced me to buy next stuff but forgot the great things you done?

[–] cloud@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 year ago

"open source" is not a product, it means that you get access to the source code

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html

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