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Fediverse

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A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!

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Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy

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Current breakdown at the time of this post sorted by the number of monthly active users:

  1. lemmy.world: 101,013 total users / 27,472 active users
  2. lemmy.ml: 41,972 total users / 4,905 active users
  3. beehaw.org: 12,270 total users / 4,178 active users
  4. sh.itjust.works: 17,509 total users / 3,381 active users
  5. feddit.de: 8,675 total users / 2,935 active users
  6. lemm.ee: 10,348 total users / 2,751 active users
  7. lemmynsfw.com: 22,967 total users / 2,310 active users
  8. lemmy.fmhy.ml: 8,777 total users / 1,704 active users
  9. lemmy.ca: 5,072 total users / 1,656 active users
  10. programming.dev: 5,058 total users / 1,242 active users

Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's pretty cool.

I'm truly not being a negative nancy but the last time I checked reddit had 400M user accounts. We should be comparing active user numbers, but either way, this is a drop in the bucket and reddit rightly does not consider Lemmy a threat to its supremacy at this point.

We're doing great though! Good trajectory.

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't need Lemmy to compete with or kill Reddit. All I wanted was any one platform to get enough of an influx of users to be self-sustaining even after the outrage started to die down, which appears to have been successful.

[–] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah as long as we have an active enough community here it doesn’t matter what goes on at reddit.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It kinda does in that when things worsen, more people come to Lemmy, but I agree that Lemmy's success doesn't depend on reddit's demise.

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[–] DanTheMan827@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What it really needed was a good app.

It’s still glitchy though… like on memmy, if you swipe too far to downvote, and go back, the color for upvote is still the downvote color

[–] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried a few different apps but I settled on just using the mobile website on my phone. The interface is solid even there, which I think is a great feat.

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[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I don’t care if I’m talking to millions of people vs hundreds of thousands as long as there are enough people to make it feel alive and like a community.

[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. I don't give a fuck about Reddit any more. I'd rather be in a niche community with (some) quality content than on some huge site with mainly reposts. We're not in competition with Reddit. Were trying to be a better alternative.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s a hard habit to break, because we’ve been trained to think this way for years, but try to remember: we don’t need to attract millions of users to be valuable. This isn’t a commercial enterprise. We don’t sell advertising. We don’t measure success by the number of eyeballs we can promise paying customers.

What matters now is the quality of conversation. In fact, that’s the ONLY measure of any consequence. It’s strange, because in the past, someone’s often tried to use services like this as a way to make money, or as a way to make something else they were selling more attractive. We expected it. It was always in the back of our heads. It even got to the point that if a company did something that wasn’t an effort to increase profitability, we criticized them. Generosity, real generosity, was alien to us.

It’s hard to wrap your head around the idea that people volunteer their time and money to build and maintain the fediverse, simply because they want us to be able to communicate. That’s it. There’s no hidden agenda. There’s no quest for profit at our expense.

I’m perfectly fine with the fediverse growing slowly. I don’t want it to be strained beyond what the mods can handle. Bigger isn’t necessarily better.

[–] Nowyn@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Coming from the non-profit world, it is never that easy. Even when there is no one officially making any money, there are people who will see it as a way to make some bank. There is also a drawback in that not making money can and will affect the amount of time people can put in unless there is a fair way to get them compensation. Volunteering also brings a huge amount of interpersonal and inter-organizational drama. That is why grassroots organizations and movements have a habit of fracturing into smaller groups.

At the same time, there is power in goodwill and being non-profit. You just really need to be careful in vetting your instance and keep an eye on issues in a way people not used to this type of world are not familiar with.

But I wouldn't be here if I didn't have a belief that it could be successful enough as a community. I also wouldn't have been working in the NGO world for the past decade if I didn't believe in that. But let's not have too rosy glasses on. Growing slowly will also give this community a chance to work out the kinks and not die in a blaze of fire.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

In the case of social network like this, bigger generally is better for the users. The thing that made Reddit great was that whatever your niece interest, there was a community of thousands of other interested people. There was so much information and advice on whatever obscure topic.

There's a reason why there's only around 10 really popular social networks and it's certainly not that those platforms are any good. The network effect is important.

[–] Rakn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I personally don't derive any value from high quality conversations about topics I don't care about. That's why I need these millions of users, so that there are people I can talk with. About topics I care about. I'm willing to go on a limb here an say that your interests and mine don't fully align.

[–] bettyspaghetti@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The other thing is, how many of those 400M accounts are bots?

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Some thoughts on that, Reddit has half a billion monthly active users. Lemmy has about 50k monthly active users. That's .01% or one ten thousandth. We won't be displacing Reddit anytime soon, but then we don't want to. That's the main problem with Reddit, it's too damn big and too damn corporate. The main thing is Lemmy sees enough growth to stay relevant and viable. It doesn't have to compete with anyone.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have to agree with others, we don't want the majority from reddit here. They helped to turn reddit into crap.

I would rather see this be like the Linux community. Just a few percent of users, but all very motivated and interested in Linux.

[–] Jay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Sorry dude, you'll have to subtract one unfortunately. I created a NSFW account to have two different home feeds.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I think that Lemmy does need more of the right exposure.

If you search for any Lemmy content on Google or Duck-Duck-Go, you don’t get any good results. This is probably because most people use Apps or secure browsers that don’t allow tracking.

Maybe Duck-Duck-Go need to have a !bang search modifier for Lemmy. https://duckduckgo.com/bangs

[–] sneezy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] MistyQuisty@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I’m old enough to remember a simpler time before lemm.ee was in the top 10 largest instances (it was 2 days ago when I signed up)

[–] CaptFeather@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a lemm.ee veteran! Yup, been here a whole 10 days now.

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it was created only 9 days ago.

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny, I got 9 days based on your oldest post! 😄

When did you create lemm.ee? Thanks for all hard work, by the way.

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

According to my cake day, it was just over 1 month ago now

[–] SageWaterDragon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have high hopes for Lemmy, but I don't think that having a lot of users is going to be a super positive thing in the long term. It'd be great if it could feel like younger Reddit for longer than younger Reddit did, you know? Stay at least a little under the radar.

[–] joolez@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

90% 2nd accounts on lemmynsfw.

[–] grahvity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cool, I got in before a quarter million!  (my first comment)  *typo

[–] weedproblem@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How is lemmy.ca not in Canada?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It is surprising. A month ago they were Canadian servers, @smorks@lemmy.ca moved it to lunanode (Canadian). ~~Perhaps CDN was moved or the whole machine was moved to a cheaper hosting platform since it got very big from then and is under new admin management as of a week ago-ish.~~

Edit: found the answer from @Shadow@lemmy.ca, TL:DR is CloudFlare

Correct! The server running this and all data is stored in Canada.

Here's a blurb from a doc I'm working on:

Lemmy.ca is hosted in Canada at OVH in Beauharnois, QC with all data on a dedicated server. Backups are PGP encrypted and pushed to the OVH backup service, however these will be moved off-site in the near future.

We use Cloudflare as a security and performance layer in front of the server. They accept the traffic for Lemmy.ca through a worldwide network of ingestion points, scrub it of abusive traffic, cache the images, and pass it through an encrypted tunnel to our server. This means they can see in plain text the data sent between us including your credentials, posts, comments and images. You can read more about their policies at https://www.cloudflare.com/trust-hub/.

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[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

We're just behind cloudflare, the server itself and all us admins are Canadian.

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That is very odd! The content certainly seems to be Canadian, though.

[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The great Canadian-Dutch war. 4 people were injured and Kevin's mom made pizza pops for everyone after.

[–] falinter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

not a lot of midwesterns i guess (im on midwest.social)

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And to think you thought you needed a John Oliver AMA. John Oliver don't have anything on me.

"Barbie", only in theaters July 21st.

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Margot, you are the best novelty account.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know what you're talking about, I'm just here to promote "Barbie".

[–] Hextic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Came here right after Joey stopped working. Gave official app one good spin before deleting: virtually unusable.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Call me when it's 1,234,567.

[–] Apex_Fail@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But I don't wanna make that many alts...

[–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think I can confidently say now that this is a legit Reddit alternative

Quickly approaching the same amount of new content created. Better memes too

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[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 0 points 1 year ago

I'm just curious what the nsfw patch does

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aww poor lemmy.dbzer0.com not top ten. 😭So close at #11 though!

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[–] Raphael@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Beehaw admins shot themselves in the foot, it was supposed to be the no.1 by now but they decided to persecute the left instead.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Why is kbin never included in these breakdowns? Is it not "formally" considered lemmy or something of that sort?

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