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NOAA is forecasting a range of 17 to 25 total named storms (winds of 39 mph or higher). Of those, 8 to 13 are forecast to become hurricanes (winds of 74 mph or higher), including 4 to 7 major hurricanes (category 3, 4 or 5; with winds of 111 mph or higher). Forecasters have a 70% confidence in these ranges.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The headline is really burying the lead here and it actually pisses me off quite a bit.

Hurricane forecasting models that have been running for years and have been established to at least be moderately predictive are unanimously predicting the worst hurricane season EVER predicted by computer models.

The temperatures west of Africa in the Atlantic where hurricanes are born and grow are already at levels that the Atlantic only reaches in mid July even in warmer years. This should be incredibly concerning to everybody on the east coast+gulf coast of the US and living in the Caribbean.

All of the hurricane forecasters I have seen are shocked. All of the parameters are in place for a perfect storm of a horrific hurricane season.

At this point all we can do is cross our fingers and hope most of the bad hurricanes miss landfall and fly out into the Atlantic but we are gambling with money we don’t have here.

Global sea surface temperatures, the yellow line is 2023, temperatures have been smashing records going back 30 years or so every single day for all of 2023 (starting in March) up until present day.

Temps look like they are going down, but even if this current downward trend continues an absolutely devastating amount of heat is being poured into the oceans. The next couple of weeks will tell us if this was some kind of weird super el nino we are coming out of and that is where the heating was coming from or whether we have entered a new climate paradigm and if that doesn’t scare you that climate scientists can’t tell yet you are frankly an idiot.

All the alarms are blaring, this is giving lots of indications we are on a far worse and faster timeline than the current mainstream media/politics narrative is acknowledging (and by extension what climate scientists can actually say in public without getting shamed or fired).

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

*lede

Also, this is the whole reason why it’s becoming impossible for people in Florida to get insurance. The same will start happening with other states too as this weather worsens. This isn’t anything new or unheard of though in the sense that anyone who has been listening to climate scientists was expecting this and much more. It’ll only get worse, yay!

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This isn’t anything new or unheard of though in the sense that anyone who has been listening to climate scientists was expecting this and much more.

No, this is completely unheard of in forecasting, the global sea surface temperatures since march 2023 are totally unheard of.

This year, 2024, will be the year a good chunk of the world comes to terms with how brutally climate change is already here. If this swing of sea surface temperature is indicative of a new paradigm and not a temporary anomaly the scale in terms of raw energy of this change will undoubtedly lead to climate scientists and geologists in retrospect placing the true beginning of the Anthropocene proper in march 2023.

Sorry not trying to be difficult, I just want to emphasize climate scientists dont know why sea surfaces are so incredibly high right now, it is very possible some hidden breaking point in the convection of the heat transfer going on in the worlds oceans has switched to a less efficient heat sink system and are now directly heating heating up more rather than just moving the heat. Climate scientists don’t know. Sure taking sulphur out of shipping fuels definitely had someeee impact, but the energy imbalance right now is titanic and I don’t think shipping fuel sulfurs account for it all.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Texas rates are already blowing up

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They're just doing this because it's in line with fake climate change predictions. God damn scientists changing the world to be in line with climate change because they are mad they were wrong about climate change!!

If you wanna stop climate change, do some real science like burning a wicker idol of Greta Tubaberg!! A sacrifice to appease the one true God!! Donald Trump!!

(Dumb shit like this was what /r/TheDonald originally was and people are so stupid that posts like this actually garnered an audience, smh)

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know you're being sarcastic. The funny thing is though, these aren't even like climate change models. This is just based on the fact that the Atlantic ocean is much warmer right now than it usually is this time of year, which is most likely going to lead to more hurricanes this year. That energy has to go somewhere eventually. The Ocean right now in mid May is as warm is at usually is in Mid July in an already bad year, so this year could potentially be catastrophic.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I knew you dirty science people would be in here!! Damn satanists!! Stop finding information and relaying it!! If temperature was real the Bible would tell us what it is.

Yoo moe gwei gwai fai ding sow.
Yoo moe gwei gwai fai ding sow.
Yoo moe gwei gwai fai ding sow.
Yoo moe gwei gwai fai ding sow.

Heed my ancient chant and be gone demon!!

(I couldn't resist, and yes that is uncle's chant from Jackie Chan Adventures)

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 months ago

I just wanted to say I just did the chant and I haven't seen a hurricane yet.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago

When Florida gets obliterated, I'm going to say god is pissed from the mistreatment of gays and trans people.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you find these storms interesting, allow me to plug Tropical Tidbits (Dr. Levi Cowan) on YouTube. I'm not affiliated in anyway, just a fan.

https://youtu.be/QFID_jfNId4

Whenever there's an active system out there, he almost always posts a few videos during its run, with a very in-depth analysis.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Tornados, hurricanes, etc.. All I want to ask these conservative climate change deniers living in these areas is whether they still believe the bullshit.

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Even better, they're actively preparing to vote for people determined to completely dismantle and privatize NOAA, per the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 guidelines. They won't have to worry about the scary weather news anymore after they do that.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That question is not worth pursuing. Remember you are using rational thought processes and you don't have an emotional investment in the outcome. You're talking to people who have made it part of their personality so when you attack that idea, they perceive that you are attacking them personally. They don't understand the powerful indifference of science. Science doesn't give a shit who is right, but they are too sensitive for that, they need a safe space.

And as a matter of fact after the damage is caused, the people who are currently paying to produce and distribute climate misinformation are most certainly positioned to profit from the resulting devastation in whatever way they can.

Spread disinformation that there is no change, meanwhile pivoting your investments around the coming change. Some people truly will say or do anything for power and influence.

Conservatives aren't interested in pulling this thread, or as many conservatives have said.. "If given the choice of knowing the truth or staying conservative I'll stay conservative."