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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Merkel years ago: " ... to decide, who the cars data belongs to: the manufacturer or the provider"

Freely translated from memory (it was about the cell providers), but the point is; the user was never in consideration.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hardly seems surprising that Renault / Dacia is the least worst since it is a European car company that doesn't sell in the US. I should point out though that Dacia holds the record for the absolute worst NCAP safety ratings at this time and some Renault cars aren't far behind. So swings and roundabouts.

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[–] BeanCounter@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
const data = await fetch('/user/beancounter/data).json()
console.log(data.hadSex)

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[–] kholby@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've got an unmatched single quote.

[–] DickySmall@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

Well that was depressing.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Oh good, a petition.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I have not read it yet, but do they have any countermeasures people can take?

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[–] xaxl@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Wish I had the money to even be able to drive one of these nightmare cars in the first place. Yay for being poor I guess!

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So at what point do we just decide "Fuck companies, fuck revenue, fuck anybody who has, say, a million bucks to their name in cash and assets. No more money making unless you do it without screwing people. If you can't, you fail. Good day. "

Tax the every living fuck out of the rich, destroy data even being collectable or sellable at all in any form.

Boom, 100,000% better world to live in immediately.

Obviously pipe dream, but I think this is really the mindset to take if humans are gonna be around and have anything resembling happy lives in say, 100 years.

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[–] BilboBallbins@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Any idea around what model year this started to take off? I drive a 2000 so I'm not worried now, but thinking of upgrading to something slightly newer.

There are EV conversion kits available, so it is possible to turn an old car electric. They won't have the storage capacity of a natively electric car, but it is an option.

[–] roboticide@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Depends on the OEM, but generally late-2010s is when it became more ubiquitous.

Any car with an infotainment system is probably a "risk," but especially '20s cars with features tied to apps are the real vulnerability here.

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[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Maybe a dumb question, but if all of the vehicle's bells and whistles are meticulously recording my every move... how do those data get back to the auto manufacturer anyhow? I read the article and the "how that works" link, and sure it mentioned phone connectivity, but if I don't connect my phone, then my car presumably has no way to communicate what it collects... or are there a bunch of extra radios that phone home (satellite, cellular...)?

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