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[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's pretty bad. Comparing it to other Trek or not. Writing is atrocious. Much of the acting is bad. Crying Captain crying damn near every episode. Not developing much of the bridge crew over 5 years. Not to mention not remembering their own rules (I remember once they said they couldn't jump while cloaked, and then they did it).

Stamets, Saru, and Georgiou were they only ones that kept me watching.

If others can find joy in it, sounds good to me, but I'll pass thanks.

[–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's pretty terrible, not terrible enough to not see. The main problem is they made it very very difficult to care at all about anyone. Burnam is the most intollerable captain ever, they barely develop any character at all, and if they do, it's only to kill them immediately after and try and squeeze some easy feelings from us. Well developed characters are instead falsely killed, but ultimately protected by plot armor. As you mentioned, Stamets and Saru are the only really decent guys.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The acting is fine. The issue is the genre.

Discovery is melodrama, something previous series explicitly were not.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Personally, I was overall disappointed with DIS. But when watching it there was the occasional moment that I loved. Lorca was a great character (until they did the haha he's actually super space Hitler rug-pull), much of the props, set designs, and costumes were great, Mudd was superb, it introduced us to Anson Mount's Pike and led to SNW, Saru was genuinely one of the most interesting characters in all of Trek, etc.

It also had a bunch of stuff that I just really really didn't like. But meh. That's just, like, my opinion maaaaann.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My main complaint is common to Picard: I don't think the season long arcs were a good idea. I felt like maybe that had enough story for a "two parter" but stretched out to a season because "streamers binge".

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I did watch it, that's how I know I don't like it it didn't take everyone else's views and make them my own.

[–] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Same, I needed more after SNW and wasn't quite ready for the way 80's - '00s era Trek was filmed. I actually liked the first two seasons and thought season 3 was okay.

Spoiler alert:
But then we learned about the source of the burn.

And then season 4 happened. And then season 5 happened. It felt like all of these were leaning into my least favorite things about Discovery. By the finale, I was fast forwarding through everything just to get through it.

Watching TNG for the first time now and loving it way more than Disco :)

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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I salute your integrity 🫡

[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Dunno what show you watched. But I thought it was trash.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, my only complaints with it overall are the insanely high stakes every season. The format of the show is hyper-serialized by design, so each season is a 10-13 hour movie which appears to make "high stakes" a requirement. Once you accept that and go along for the ride, it is quite enjoyable.

That said, I do prefer the episodic format of SNW and LD.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 16 points 1 year ago

That’s why I like Strange New Worlds better.

[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, which makes the burn story kinda flop at the end. It was a good idea, a resource everyone has become dependent on becomes scarce. There was a lot of untaped potential there IMO, but a great premise. Then it gets turned into this asnine root cause. They could have done so much better. Imagine if they turned it into a tragedy of the commons. A warp superhighway wore a crack in subspace and that interacted with a nebula or something. It was a death of a thousand cuts and everyone ignored it. Maybe Starfleet even knew it could happen but ignored it because that's how they have always done it, and even if Starfleet stopped the cardasians and the gorn etc would still be using dilithum based warp bubbles (excuse after excuse)... Heavy handed, maybe, but more meaningful.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Totally second everything you state. The characters are absolutely great too, but the season story arcs with just incredible stakes are not my cup of tea. Serialized and packaged story EPs are preferred. That said I enjoy it for what it is.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is discovery the one with the weird looking Klingons?

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[–] SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

But it is. Very much so.

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think a lot of the criticism of DISCO is overblown. It’s definitely a fun watch, but it never really feels like Star Trek. It feels like an action sci-fi show wearing a heavy coat of Star Trek paint.

It was good once I accepted it for what it is and stopped expecting it to be something like what I generally expect Star Trek to be.

That's what a lot of modern Sci fi shows are doing these days, it seems.

Like the "Halo" show. It very much feels like someone took their idea for a show that got shot down, used find+replace to redo all the names and places to make it "halo" and got greenlit. And honestly I think I might have liked it as it's own thing.

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[–] blahsay@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It sucks soooo much.

[–] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s the only Star Trek show I’ve struggled to get through. It became the show I put on in the background while I was ironing my laundry.

I’ve watched everything else except Enterprise and Prodigy.

Stamets is one of the better parts of the show, though.

Enterprise is a little campy but really awesome.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I thought Disco was pretty good, but it kept diverging further and further from what feels like Star Trek

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought it got closer over time. Season 1 tired maybe a bit too hard to feel "new and fresh", but they reined it in a lot later on. I mean, obviously bringing the SNW Enterprise crew in for Season 2 was a bit of a mission statement, but the entire back half of the show is all about getting back to Trek status quo.

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[–] ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Care to elaborate? Didn't watch it yet, this is an honest question.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Discovery is very divisive among viewers. People seem to really like it or really hate it with not much in between. Both sides have valid arguments, but people forgot there is a middle ground.

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[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 6 points 1 year ago

My personal highlight in DIS was the start of S3, when Burnham amd Book were cruising around with his ship. I thought "Yeah, that could be nice. Star Trek that's not playing on a Federation ship? That could be a nice change of pace". Then two episodes later they abandonded that and returned to the same old.

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I thought this was about the discovery channel... and didn't understand anything from the comments

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

I absolutely heckin' loved it

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