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Private Security Camera (literature.cafe)
submitted 3 months ago by CaptObvious@literature.cafe to c/privacyguides@lemmy.one
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I find that I need a security camera for my back yard. Do you folks recommend any particular makes & models? It should avoid the cloud but record locally. I'm somewhat handy with Linux and a RaspberryPi, if that helps.

Thanks!

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Any IP camera that supports the onvif standard. Chinese Dahau and Hisense have amazing image quality but do not trust them. Block their Mac address at your router and you'll be fine.

I really like Power over Ethernet IP cameras because it's one cable for power and data. If it's only one camera you buy a POE injector so you plug in power where it's convenient and run Ethernet (that also delivers power) to the camera. For multiple cameras, get a POE switch. On the software side, DWSpectrum, Frigate, or Shinobi for Linux. If you want it to work without any hassle, BlueIris for Windows is great.

The Dahau and Hisense cameras I've used have their own recording capabilities so you can get by without even a Linux PC running Network Video Recording software like I listed above.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not interested, for numerous reasons, in anything produced by or in China.

I really like the concept of PoE cameras for the same reasons. Given where they'll be installed, I'd rather only climb onto the roof or into attic crawlspaces once. :)

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You should know that many, if not all US "made" cameras are only rebranded Chinese cameras.

For example Amcrest of Texas is actually owned by the Chinese Foscam and sells rebranded Dahau cameras. Reolink is also Chinese. Even premium US companies like Ubiquity have their cameras made in China.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

Yes, I know it's difficult to impossible to avoid China in this domain. That won't stop me trying. :)

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Check out ReoLink cameras; you can set them up and use them fully locally.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Be aware that some only work with neolink in between. I have some B800 cams and the picture is phenomenal, but I have to use neolink and h265.

I moved to Amcrest. Much more open, the api is documented, and h264.

Oh, and frigate NVR

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 points 3 months ago

Amcrest is a new one to me. Thanks for the suggestion.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion. I have a hard time trusting a company that appears to try to hide its country of origin. And I'm not interested in anything made by a Chinese company.

[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Been looking for one myself & I’ve been reading pretty good things about amcrest cams. Still need to do a bit of research before I make any purchases, but I’m leaning towards amcrest bc seems to check most of my boxes for privacy reasons.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 points 3 months ago

Amcrest is a new one for me. Doing more research, but thanks for the suggestion.

[–] abominable_panda@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Check out thingino. Its a great fully open source project for privacy respecting firmware for ip cameras (unlike other alternatives) and a really helpful bunch of devs.

Might fit you well since you mention youre good with linux

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

This is neat! Thanks for the tip

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

Another new project to consider. Thanks!

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I add OpenIPC for great FOSS firmware too

[–] abominable_panda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I used to use openipc (that was the "alternative" i was referring to") but its not truly FOSS. Their default streamer is hidden behind closed doors and theyve also taken some contributions and added it to majestic never to be seen in the open again. You cant be sure what theyre doing there.

That said, it is a great alternative if you dont have ingenic based cameras. And they apparently now offer minimal other open source options for streamers...

Some of the key devs left and created thingino because of the whole foss thing. Imo theyre a much friendlier bunch too but thats purely an opinion

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I totally agree with you. I asked on Telegram why Majestic was closed source and I was insulted in Russian. To date I still don't know why they do that.

I am still using OpenIPC. I don't see any outgoing connection (but I've also disabled internet access to it via firewall just to be sure)

[–] abominable_panda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thats awful... but im not surprised. I witnessed similar when i used to contribute.

In any case i hate that theyre like this because there is a need for truly open camera firmware but their attitude makes me not even want to mention or recommend them. Especially not as a fully or truly FOSS solution

Thingino devs are bros and do it purely for the foss privacy philosophy. Contributions are encouraged and praised and the support is soo friendly and encouraging

[–] illectrility@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pine64 makes a security camera for use with a (included?) Raspberry Pi, iirc

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

I'll check them out. Thanks!

[–] czardestructo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

May or may not be an option for you but buy any camera that supports rtsp, only allow that traffic from their network through and block everything else. Works fine for me and my Amcrest cameras. You could accomplish this with a pi and a USB network card and some basic iptables.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion. Amcrest is a new one to me. I'll check them out.

[–] pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've been using a TAPO C200, it just required the initial setup to be connected to the internet to configure via de app, afterwards I blocked the internet traffic at router level, the feed is processed through https://frigate.video/ which I selfhost in a mini PC, not sure how well it'll perform on a PI.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean you have to allow internet for it again if you want to reconfigure it?

[–] pe1uca@lemmy.pe1uca.dev 1 points 3 months ago

It depends what you need to configure.
I'm using this library to move around the camera https://github.com/JurajNyiri/pytapo
For anything else, AFAIK, yeah, you'd need to re-enable internet access.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

Tapo looks promising. If Frigate is too much for the Pi, I have a couple of retired PCs that could be recommissioned. Thanks for the suggestion.