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The final home of Marilyn Monroe – and the only residence she ever owned independently – will remain standing for now after Los Angeles officials intervened to block the property’s demolition.

The news that the new owners of 12305 Fifth Helena Drive, where Monroe died at age 36, filed for demolition permits had attracted widespread outrage. Los Angeles city councilwoman Traci Park said she received hundreds of calls urging her to save the Spanish colonial-style house in the city’s Brentwood neighborhood.

“Unfortunately, the department of building and safety issued a demolition permit before my team and I could fully intervene and get this issue resolved,” Park said at a news conference last week, adding that there was a need for “urgent action”.

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never heard anybody talk about where Marilyn Monroe lived in my life. If the property was important for preservation why didn't the city already own it? Was there just supposed to be some general understanding that it wasn't allowed to be demolished? I would think it's just an empty shell at this point.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If there is a bunch of people who care so much about the house that they would put in effort to stop the demolition then they should purchase it.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You say that as though a house that isn’t presently listed for sale can be forcibly purchased for such a thing, which just isn’t how it works unless it’s the government doing the forcing.

Besides which, they have to stop the demolition before they could even offer to purchase it, assuming the owners want to sell at all, so even if that does end up being a valid option, it’s going to take time.

So either way they need to stop the demolition to do what you suggest..? I’m confused as to how you expect that to work.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a bit confused on your confusion. I just stated that if they want to keep the house then they should purchase it. If the current owners don't want to sell then too bad for them.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So your stance is “if the land owners want to fuck up a potential historical landmark for everyone else, they can, regardless of what society as a whole wants; private property is king, and rich people rule the rest of us.”?

Sorry, but I fundamentally disagree with that mindset. As does most of society, and the government, hence historical districting, which is mostly privately owned.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

And that is where you are wrong. The government cannot agree with you because, by the US Constitution, the government cannot just seize land without offering equal value. So it cannot be made a historic monument, something the government would have to designate, unless the government owned the property, which they do not.

Also you have no right to speak on what most of society wants. The best you can do is speak on your world view. I could also argue that most people wouldn't care if it is demolished.

Finally, my stance is not what you stated. I don't know why you think you know everything. My stance is "If the want to preserve the property the do it right. Legally obtain ownership and go through the proper channels." Stop making assumptions.

[–] jopepa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

None of them are very liquid right now, they have most of their savings invested in a box under their bed labeled “homework”

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"The property, which features a guest house and swimming pool, was purchased in 2017 for $7.25m by Glory of the Snow LLC, then managed by a hedge fund executive, the Los Angeles Times reported. It was sold to the Glory of the Snow Trust for $8.35m earlier this year."

It should be illegal for LLCs or trust funds to purchase housing of any kind.

[–] kryptonicus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be illegal for LLCs or trust funds to purchase housing of any kind.

I completely agree that LLCs, REITs, and institutional investors shouldn't be able to buy single family homes (and maybe even duplexes), but I don't know about "housing of any kind."

Large, multi family units like apartment buildings serve a vital need in the affordable housing market. Private individuals who have the capital to purchase a multi million dollar apartment building aren't any more likely to be a conscientious landlord than a corporation. At that point, it all boils down to effective enforcement of tenant rights laws.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, but REITs are investment companies, not housing companies. They only bought the apartment building because they see it as a way to create infinite wealth for themselves, rather than, you know, be a service provider.

[–] kryptonicus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe you're right. But I don't really bother to try and read too deep into the motivations of any kind of corporation. I assume they're all primarily motivated by profit. And my point is that individuals who have the capital to buy millions of dollars of real estate are functionally no different from a corporate investor, be it a REIT or a "housing company" motivated solely by "providing service." They're all going to do the bare minimum as required by the market to stay competitive and government regulation.

[–] grimace1153@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That might be a bit too much. LLCs aren’t always evil corporations. For example, I am an LLC and bought my house with the LLC for privacy reasons. I know other people who have done the same. Not always nefarious

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps require that the owner of the LLC use the house as their primary dwelling?

[–] grimace1153@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Or just anyone. Person or LLC. That’s fair

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think she was a beautiful icon, but this is asinine. What could possibly be so special about this particular house? If demolition is even an option, the house itself is likely in bad shape and not livable, so it’s just taking up space.

[–] flynnguy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If demolition is even an option, the house itself is likely in bad shape and not livable

Not necessarily. I don't know if this is the case here but some places, people view the property location as more valuable and have too much money so they buy the house/property and then knock the house down and build what they want no matter the condition of the original house.

This happened to someone I know, their house needed a little work but was perfectly fine. The new owner didn't even go inside to look at the house. Made an offer and then tore it down to build something new.

[–] Im14abeer@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

How about something like this...

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2023/07/18/phoenix-suns-mat-ishbia-bloomfield-township-michigan/70410992007/

He's knocking down his own house he just built plus several others.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So fucking what? She died decades ago, and she's not an important person like a Gandhi or an Einstein or an FDR. Tear it down. Build new housing. People need to get celebrities dicks all the way out of their throats.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I could not give less of a shit about what happens (happened?) to Gandhi's or Einstein's homes unless they're turned into public museums. Sell it, tear it down, whatever. They aren't important places

[–] HedonismB0t@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

So old houses are all bad and should be torn down? It's a 2900sq ft single family home that's historic in a single family home zoned district, not a mansion in the middle of a higher density housing zone. It's not going to be torn down to become low income housing, it would probably be torn down to be turned into a modern monstrosity given the 7M+ sale price.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It should be converted into a public museum celebrating her life. I think plenty of people will be interested to see what the life of a celebrity is like away from the spotlight.

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Wait, why would her having lived here have anything to do with current construction permits?

[–] onionbaggage@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

Tear it down and build affordable housing.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Make it seem a suicide!

Make it seem a suicide!

Make it seem a suicide!

Make it seem a suicide!

But it ain't a mystery, baby, not to me.