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And those "strict requirements" would be written by lawyers and lobbyists for the hedge fund managers, so you know you can trust them.

I'm pretty sure the Harris suggestion requires you are specifically working as a waiter and a few other specific job descriptions.
So the possibility for abuse by "the powerful" does not seem possible to do legally.
People can always cheat illegally, which can work for years, but there's a risk to be found out.

Personally I'm against making tips tax free, because it seems to be a bad solution to a problem of low wages in service industries.
But on the other hand, if it's not politically possible with a better solution, I guess it's better than nothing.

I will charge $1 for software development, with a $10,000 tip.

European restaurants work this way and don’t seem to be suffering.

I was in London a couple months ago for my first trip to Europe. I'm still trying to figure out the economics of the pubs.

How are the servers at pubs being paid in a manner that they're able to live in or close to London? Aren't they paying significantly more in taxes than US workers? They all seemed very pleasant and gracious, presumably with the promise of a known paycheck. They really didn't have much to do other than pull a tap handle. The beers were all very reasonably priced (often 10-25% less than at American bars). I wonder if these pubs are subsidized in some way to keep the prices low and the wages reasonable. How are businesses taxed in London / Europe compared to the US? Perhaps higher wage taxes and lower business taxes means employers can pay their staff more?

The experience is still living in my head as if I had visited a land in a fairytale (or could just be because London).

My point really is that local economics would likely change drastically simply by making this one change. I know a lot of bartenders and servers - they make far more on tips than if they were paid a living wage. I don't know one person who would prefer an hourly wage. There's so many pieces to the puzzle that I'm not able to jot down right now but I wonder if the US could maintain the number of restaurants and bars it has if it were to shift servers to a salary.

People tip the housekeeper?

They should make this tax free because the current system criminalizes normal behavior. There’s a huge amount of tax fraud, yet not worth much in the grand scheme of things and not worth enforcement. This just means they are no longer criminals and the honest people are no longer punished for honesty in something where they realism can’t get caught.

As someone who lives in the EU and travels to different EU (and the UK) countries, tipping is becoming a thing here.

Was just in Scotland, one place had mandatory 10% tip on the bill, another place "questioned" (complained) that the tip wasn't high enough for them. I've also seen it in other countries, typically on the machines to pay. I think it's because it's easy to put there and people are more likely to hit a yes option.

Isn't as high % expected as in the US and Canada, but it's showing up here.

In general I don't usually tip because of this. It's not my place to pay them a living wage; it's the employer's job. If more Americans would take this stance and make it impossible for employers to hire at sub-minimum wages; this culture would go away.

I have to receive more than above-and-beyond service to even consider tipping; and then it's only when I have the funds to do so. I don't appreciate tipping pressure either; and I will actively not tip when people are pressuring me to do so; or when the execution of the transaction itself needlessly provides a prompt to tip when there's really no reason to tip anyone who doesn't care or provide more than their basic job in service.

Frequently there's no reason to tip in most service contexts; as there's no additional work being done; or assistance being asked of the employee. In some limited contexts there's justification for tipping; but it's very limited justification, and it really comes down to a couple questions: 'Did the employee provide a service that was far more exceptional than would be reasonably expected of them to perform', and, 'Was that performance given merely because it was asked or needed to accommodate you as a customer and your immediate and obvious needs'?

In some contexts, in some jobs, those opportunities to go above and beyond do exist. In those contexts...tip if you feel it's appropriate. In many other service jobs; the employer has brutally optimized and taken complete management over the efficiency and tasks being performed and; as such; they should assume the responsibilities of ensuring that an employee gets paid sufficiently, but also gets opportunity to get paid for reliable, superb or consistent superior performance.

I remember when this was signed. My jaw dropped when I read it while I knew it would get swept under the rug and forgotten about. I specifically said to myself, this is a ruthless attempt to set up the democrats to look bad after his first term.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. We should be taking a very hard look at why it is.

I just wish the exemption caps would also expire. While I never did the math, I think people like me paid more because of the stupid cap, regardless of the lower tax rate. It’s not just the wealthy who pay a ton of state and local taxes, but also many of us in high cost of living states. I’ve still been able to itemize, but now I can’t exempt state and local taxes so it doesn’t get me much. And I pay tax on the taxes I pay. Yay, double taxation /s

All of then are already trying.

I don't tip unless hair or food. And I tip cash. Fuck these "owners" haha

I never signed for paying cooks wages 🤡

Then mandatory tips, and tip sharing with the CEO...

Shouldn't be taxed in income either

But with tips, it's income from customers generosity, not pay from an employer. It's not guaranteed, in 99% of the cases, but gets taxed like it is which puts power over it into the hands of the employer, who has no business in the transaction.

By default, I am 100% against intrusion of extra parties unnecessarily, and this fits that bill. Providing the atmosphere tipping can occur doesn't mean the owner should be in charge of whether the culture tips or not. Are the power and water companies demanding tips from business owners? Or judges and protective services demanding tips from citizens? Their work enables the environment for their business to exist, ergo, same logic. Or doctors and nurses, they're work keeps people alive to even create industry.

Coming down on the tipped service worker is definition punching down. They work in services, that means their job already sucks, leave em be already and focus on actual issues.

I'm leaning towards horrible. If your tips are tax-free, I'm gonna cut your wages. What do you care? Go out there and make more tips! Shake that money maker, honey!

And why should waitresses and bar staff have all the luck? Doesn't everyone deserve tax-free tips? Tip your grocery cashier! Tip your nurse! Tip the guy at the bank who approves the loan you need to afford giving tips to everyone, as the weight of providing a living to everyone you interact with shifts away from the business owners and shareholders and onto your shoulders!

Not sure Rick.
Why would anyone's wages won't be subject to taxation while others are?
How can we prevent executives from instating "executive tips" that are not taxable ?
Is this a true effort to not get the people in service positions to get full salary and benefits?