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Did he do that?!?!?!?!?

Also, kinda burying the lede that the Wolfman-mask alien from the ANH Cantina scene will be an actual character.

Please don't let this suck...

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[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Good to see some OG aliens in there, Disney kept adding almost exclusively new aliens and then only use those for a lot of their stuff.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

One of the true unforced errors of the Disney era, particularly the ST itself. I get that they didn't want to be "MCU, Space Opera Division," so they wanted to get a little auteur thing going on and let JJ et al do their own thing, but Lucas et al created literally dozens of aliens and for the most part none of them were in the ST, even in background roles. It made it feel disconnected. "The universe is too small" has also been a fair criticism, but (1) you don't fix that all at once, and (2) they didn't really do that anyway, just made all the aliens into pufferfish or catfish.

[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Statistically speaking... it's going to suck.

[–] durrandon@geekdom.social 8 points 15 hours ago

@SamuraiBeandog

With that attitude, we never would have gotten Andor.

@wjrii

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Sure. Why wait and decide for ourselves? Let's hate it now.

[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Getting flashbacks to the Acolyte reviewbombs dropping before the episodes even aired.

[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 16 hours ago

"Never tell me the odds!"

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm doing this new thing where I try to like things. Movies, TV shows, games, etc. I don't always succeed and some things are very hard to like. But the alternative just leads to poisoned expectations and the death of joy.

[–] SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Nah I've made my peace with it, I don't let it bother me (mostly). I only posted here because I'm super bored at work. I used to be mad about the ongoing death of quality media but I now I mostly don't even pay attention.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

It's got hot werewolf man. I'm in.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

“Can’t let you do that, Star Fox!”

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

If we're ever gonna get Hondo, this is probably it. Knowing Lucasfilm, it'll probably be as a five-second end-of-season stinger though.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I've fallen out of star wars as the recent stuff has been mediocre (or Andor which was "quality television" but felt, to me out of place in a galaxy ruled by space wizards with laser swords) but damn, seeing that wolfman dude and the notion of Urkel... Well, I'm tempted!

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The real problem is they are making too much stuff. I stopped getting the comics because they were horrible. I don’t know if I’m going to watch this show or not. It would be better to have one good show tell a story for two or three seasons and then move to the next one.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

That would be ideal for fans but I guess Disney doesn't view that as profit maximizing?

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's neat, I hadn't heard about this show. The trailer looks fun. Is it just me, or does Jaleel look rendered in this shot?

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree the trailer looks fun. Goonies in space, plus a Jedi.

There's just been a certain cheap and rushed quality to recent Star Wars outings, both in writing and actual production values, that has made them a lot less enjoyable than they could be. I actually kinda liked the Acolyte and hope in particular that we see Manny Jacinto again, but I can't deny it was mostly just "kinda okay" and definitely seemed to squander its budget on cheap fake beards and fat toy lightsabers.

A breezy, fun story could handle that campy vibe a little better than ponderous end-of-galaxy stories, though. We need an infusion of charisma, too. I dunno. As always, I'm cautiously optimistic.

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm an editor by trade, and weirdly, I think Acolyte's main problem is editing. When I later heard that the story was supposed to be all about the Sith and was reworked by producers, it clicked. It's cut like someone doing their best to make a story make sense after cornerstones of that story are removed. I've been in that position. It sucks.

[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't have any real problems with the actual story of the Acolyte, but what did put me off most was the insane pacing and strange edits in that show, there was rarely a moment of rest to give viewers time to let stuff sink in. Some episodes also cut-off very suddenly to a credit roll, it was just jarring. And a lot of scenes felt like they were supposed to be a lot longer and could've benefitted from a lot more dialogue.

I'm unsure why they did so, because most episode could've easily been like 20-30 minutes longer to make at least 1 hour episodes. I think they might've cut a lot and saved it for either flashbacks in a potential second season (especially the Qimir stuff) or decided they wanted to change it later.

The whole editing and pacing reminds me a lot of Rise of Skywalker, the entire movie felt like they crammed 2 or even 3 movies into one.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The whole editing and pacing reminds me a lot of Rise of Skywalker, the entire movie felt like they crammed 2 or even 3 movies into one.

I'm an unapologetic The Last Jedi fan, so fair warning, but this is a huge part of the issue with The Rise of Skywalker. It was such a knee-jerk, panicky reaction to the mixed reception of TLJ that it materially made TROS worse than it needed to be. You can walk back some of the more divisive stuff in TLJ in a way that's much more graceful and isn't lampshading it with stupid shit like, "Come with us Rose! I can't Leia gave me homework!" or having Force Ghost Luke literally catch and return the Youngling-Slayer lightsaber. Even if you want to go a different direction, it needed to be "Yes, and..." rather than simply undoing TLJ. It left no one satisfied and wasted run-time.

Beyond that, I agree, there was just too much, with the redemption of Kylo Ren (assuming you needed to go that direction... I don't agree) being enough to fill out an entire movie if done with care, and then the rebuilding the resistance and invading Exegol being plenty for a third.