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    [–] Thyrian@ttrpg.network 114 points 1 month ago (22 children)

    I think most snap haters mostly hate, that Canonical forces snap upon them, an wouldn't hate so much about it if they had the choice.

    [–] Shareni@programming.dev 83 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, who'd hate using a package manager that increasingly slows down your boot time with every package installed, or that uses a closed source store to provide you FOSS

    Maybe there's a reason canonical has to force it on their users

    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I also hate that it creates a loopback device for every installed snap

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 1 month ago

    There's a lot I dislike about snap. This is the thing I hate.

    Yeah typing "apt install firefox" and getting the Snap version does loudly and obnoxiously disqualify Ubuntu from any devices owned by me or my family.

    [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

    Thanks to snap I switched to arch. It gave a linux beginner so much drive to learn the terminal and install a harder os lol. The firefox snap was the worst shit.

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    [–] devilish666@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    I never used snap, always use official repo > multilib > extra > chaotic aur > aur > flatpak > FUCK IT, I BUILD FROM SOURCE CODE FROM SHADY GITHUB REPO

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 29 points 1 month ago

    FUCK IT, I BUILD FROM SOURCE CODE FROM SHADY GITHUB REPO_*

    I feel seen.

    [–] Morphit@feddit.uk 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    curl shit | sudo bash is just so convenient.

    [–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I hope you mean https://shit.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    http://mysite.net | sudo bash

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    [–] alper_celik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

    The safest install method \s

    [–] vfye@toast.ooo 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Thread made by canonical employee

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    [–] unrushed233@lemmings.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Now also throw GNU Guix, Homebrew and some AppImages in there

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    [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    People using Linux should take their heads out of their asses sometimes and just let people enjoy things they way they prefer.

    [–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Fuckin preach it friend!

    That's the joy of Linux, the "have it your way" approach to an OS

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago (25 children)

    yeah well, you can't have it your way on Ubuntu when Canonical FORCES you to use snaps (heck they even hacked apt to prefer snaps instead of debs)

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    [–] fossphi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

    Heck yeah! There's so much gatekeeping and tribalism that it kinda sucks out the joy a little bit

    [–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    It's a shame that snaps are forced to use Canonicals closed source backend because they are really good, and a fully snap system is a very compelling idea for immutable systems

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    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Snap is bad. I only say this as someone who did a lot of OS security work for Linux and Unix, so take that with a grain of salt.

    [–] Max820@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

    Would you mind explaining why? I'm genuinely curious

    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

    snap bad indeed

    [–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I have NODE installed using snap lmao. Why? Installing it the normal way just gives me tons of errors that I'm too bored to deal with. I'm sure there's a fix, but I'm too lazy to debug all that. Of course, I don't use snap node for hosting servers and stuff. I just use it for react native. Regardless, it works n I'm happy lol

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Yeah. I don't mind snap at all for cases where a better package doesn't exist.

    What made me give up Ubuntu was how it railroaded me into snap versions of packages that work better, for me, as native .deb installs.

    [–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Oh definitely. Canonical forcing us to use snap Firefox was very shitty. I mean I still use Ubuntu because I'm lazy, but I did change the snap Firefox thing to the apt libraries or whatever.

    I really don't understand why they don't just adopt flatpak.

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    [–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 month ago

    I use nix like the AUR for debian.

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