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    [–] Thyrian@ttrpg.network 113 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

    I think most snap haters mostly hate, that Canonical forces snap upon them, an wouldn't hate so much about it if they had the choice.

    [–] Shareni@programming.dev 82 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah, who'd hate using a package manager that increasingly slows down your boot time with every package installed, or that uses a closed source store to provide you FOSS

    Maybe there's a reason canonical has to force it on their users

    [–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 73 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I also hate that it creates a loopback device for every installed snap

    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 3 weeks ago

    There's a lot I dislike about snap. This is the thing I hate.

    Yeah typing "apt install firefox" and getting the Snap version does loudly and obnoxiously disqualify Ubuntu from any devices owned by me or my family.

    [–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

    Thanks to snap I switched to arch. It gave a linux beginner so much drive to learn the terminal and install a harder os lol. The firefox snap was the worst shit.

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    [–] devilish666@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    I never used snap, always use official repo > multilib > extra > chaotic aur > aur > flatpak > FUCK IT, I BUILD FROM SOURCE CODE FROM SHADY GITHUB REPO

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 28 points 3 weeks ago

    FUCK IT, I BUILD FROM SOURCE CODE FROM SHADY GITHUB REPO_*

    I feel seen.

    [–] Morphit@feddit.uk 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    curl shit | sudo bash is just so convenient.

    [–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I hope you mean https://shit.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    http://mysite.net | sudo bash

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    [–] alper_celik@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

    The safest install method \s

    [–] vfye@toast.ooo 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Thread made by canonical employee

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    [–] unrushed233@lemmings.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Now also throw GNU Guix, Homebrew and some AppImages in there

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    [–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    People using Linux should take their heads out of their asses sometimes and just let people enjoy things they way they prefer.

    [–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Fuckin preach it friend!

    That's the joy of Linux, the "have it your way" approach to an OS

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 22 points 3 weeks ago (25 children)

    yeah well, you can't have it your way on Ubuntu when Canonical FORCES you to use snaps (heck they even hacked apt to prefer snaps instead of debs)

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    [–] fossphi@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Heck yeah! There's so much gatekeeping and tribalism that it kinda sucks out the joy a little bit

    [–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    It's a shame that snaps are forced to use Canonicals closed source backend because they are really good, and a fully snap system is a very compelling idea for immutable systems

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    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Snap is bad. I only say this as someone who did a lot of OS security work for Linux and Unix, so take that with a grain of salt.

    [–] Max820@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

    Would you mind explaining why? I'm genuinely curious

    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

    snap bad indeed

    [–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I have NODE installed using snap lmao. Why? Installing it the normal way just gives me tons of errors that I'm too bored to deal with. I'm sure there's a fix, but I'm too lazy to debug all that. Of course, I don't use snap node for hosting servers and stuff. I just use it for react native. Regardless, it works n I'm happy lol

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yeah. I don't mind snap at all for cases where a better package doesn't exist.

    What made me give up Ubuntu was how it railroaded me into snap versions of packages that work better, for me, as native .deb installs.

    [–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Oh definitely. Canonical forcing us to use snap Firefox was very shitty. I mean I still use Ubuntu because I'm lazy, but I did change the snap Firefox thing to the apt libraries or whatever.

    I really don't understand why they don't just adopt flatpak.

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    [–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 weeks ago

    I use nix like the AUR for debian.

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