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LEBANON, Ohio (WCMH) — Ohio’s Republican candidate for U.S. Senate questioned why a certain group of women would be concerned about abortion during an event in the state.

NBC4 obtained a video recording from a Warren County town hall on Friday, where GOP Senate hopeful Bernie Moreno accused suburban women of being focused solely on their ability to get an abortion. 

“You know, the left has a lot of single issue voters,” Moreno said. “Sadly, by the way, there’s a lot of suburban women, a lot of suburban women that are like, ‘Listen, abortion is it. If I can’t have an abortion in this country whenever I want, I will vote for anybody else.’ … OK. It’s a little crazy by the way, but — especially for women that are like past 50 — I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.'”

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

It’s a little crazy by the way, but — especially for women that are like past 50 — I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.'

Hey assbag, those women over 50 have daughters, granddaughters, goddaughters, step-daughters, daughters-in-law, sisters, nieces, cousins, and (in at least two situations I personally know of) aunts who are younger than them who this would be an issue for. And not to mention all the men and NBs in their lives who support them and their health.

So go fuck yourself.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What's crazy to me is that they think that men don't care about it either.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would a man care about his wife bleeding In a car with doctors refusing to help? Can't he just get another one from the lady store? /s

No, women are traditionally stored in binders. You have to slide them out of that plastic protector thingy.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

I have a 15 month old.. I live in a red state with an abortion ban that started as a trigger law.

The entire pregnancy I told my wife I'll choose her Everytime and if we don't get the care she needs.. we will find it.

Bodily autonomy was always important to me. My wife potentially dying and the maga government not caring has pushed me as far left as I need to go to always vote blue.

Wife and kiddo were fine, 0 complications. We were fortunate. Not everyone is as lucky.

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 month ago

It was the response from a lot of people to COVID precautions that made me realize that a disturbing number of people are completely lacking in empathy, and don't even understand it as a concept. They're the people who truly did not understand why a person who isn't at personal risk of complications would still do thinks like distance, wear a mask, or get vaccinated, because most of the benefits involve stopping the spread to others.

This is exactly the same thing. Not only do they not care about other people, they genuinely do not understand the others do.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

He can’t picture someone having community and love, and caring about issues that might not affect them directly for selfish reasons.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I don't have to be related to someone to be able to imagine what life would be like in their shoes, how what I would want to do if in their position might affect others, and ultimately whether or not we should ban something, provide aid for something, or ignore something.

The republican electorate seems largely incapable of doing that, and that's why republican officials act surprised when people vote for the good of anyone other than themselves.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

[Moreno said] It’s a little crazy by the way, but — especially for women that are like past 50 — I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.

This is a perfect encapsulation of the conservative mindset. "If X isn't applying to you, why do you care?" Project that across so many issues and you see the conservative viewpoint:

  • "I don't experience climate change that I'm aware of yet, so there's no reason to do anything about it"
  • "I'm not homosexual, so I don't care that homosexuals have fewer rights."
  • "I don't have kids struggling with nutrition, so why do I want any programs that help nutrition for poor kids?"
  • "I don't have a uterus, so don't care I don't have control over my own body"

Moreno is essentially saying that empathy should be absent in the conservative mind.

[–] luminaree@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Yep, and they think everyone thinks that way. It's like when JD Vance said that people who are childless have no investment in the future, as if we have no reason to care about the future of society without kids of our own.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure he would agree, but he's also lacking in empathy to the extent that he actually doesn't personally understand.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The foundation of sociopathy, really.

[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It's not just abortion. Republicans are openly entertaining the idea of jailing women for having miscarriages which is a natural bodily function that happens sometimes.

Imagine if Republicans wanted to lock you up in prison for a bodily function you have no control over, you'd get angry too.

[–] flamingarms@feddit.uk 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're not entertaining the idea; they've already executed it. Women have already been arrested for miscarriages in multiple states.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59214544

They certainly are. Fucking christofascism.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

which is a natural bodily function that happens sometimes

Its much more common for women trying to have children than most understand it to be.

"Among 53,479 different women admitted to labor and delivery ward, 43% of women reported having had 1 or more first trimester spontaneous miscarriages" source

So 43%, nearly half of women, that eventually bring a pregnancy to term have experienced at least one just in the first trimester.

Notice that this risk of being jailed only applies to women.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

This is the result of really terrible sex ed. I learned about miscarriages in eighth grade. Scared the hell out of me thinking of a dead body inside me, and I don't even have a uterus.

Let me tell you, informing kids of all the things that can go wrong with a pregnancy is some damn effective contraception.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Welcome to being black

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Also last year we legalized abortion here by ballot measure to the constitution. Ohio wants abortion

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Farting declared illegal in Arkansas

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Miscarriages are insanely common, to the point where you are talking about jailing a majority of women. Do you actually believe that they want to do this? That's like cartoon-villian level of evil and so extreme that it's astonishing to me that people find this kind of hysteria so easy to believe. This place blows my mind sometimes with how much of an echo chamber it is.

[–] sfbing@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Yes, I do. And yes, it is evil. It has already started in red states. That's why we are against it.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

Crazy how people are worried about the rights of others

And it's not just abortion, it's a matter of being able to make a decision about your own body without the Government telling you what you can/can't do.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

You know, he's not wrong, I'm a single issue left voter. As long as a fascist dictator is on the ballot I simply can't vote for them.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago

"Bernie’s view is that women voters care just as much about the economy, rising prices, crime and our open southern border"

Economy: almost crashed into a recession because of Trump ignoring covid

Rising prices: because the Republicans killed the price gouging act

Crime: at like 50 year lows

Open border: because Trump had the Republicans kill the Border deal that Sen Langford (a hardcore republican) negotiated and got everything the Republicans wanted.

But yes. Tell millions of women they are crazy.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

the left has a lot of single issue voters

Really, because it's difficult to find a right-wing voter whose "freedoms" they seem to go bonkers over is guns.

Seriously, next time a right-winger s is shouting about the "freedoms" others are taking away, ask em to name 1 of those freedoms...that isn't guns.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 month ago

Most people would become a single issue voter if that issue is "would you like to live?"

[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Yes, please keep talking. Keep proudly expressing your platform is to deny women self determination. Good strategy.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago

Bold move to say this in a state where we just put an amendment in about it that passed with 57% of the vote.

But seriously, this guy is an asshole anyway that steals from his employees.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the guy who said women over 50 should not have an opinion. Wow.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Where the fuck does he think the women under fifty fucking came from?

We've got 4 daughters. You'd better fucking believe their human rights are important to us. Do they think agency and autonomy are fucking academic issues to women?

[–] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don’t think he realized that he shouldn’t say the GOP briefing points out loud

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Say it louder and prouder please. Maybe it will effect my in laws

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago

Ah, yes, another old white man who wants to control women. I am so sick of this shit.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 month ago

People vote against fascism….

“These damned single-issue voters!”

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Keep talking. Senator brown needs another 6 years

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Is this ghoul trying to set simultaneous records in condescension, hypocrisy and contempt for women?

Because if he is, it's a good attempt and if he's trying to do literally anything else, it's an abysmal effort 🤬

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

It's just projection they know that they're in base or single issue voters against abortion. The speech is simply a tool to make sure they remember that and they stay on the line.

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