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What a terrible graph. That "huge" spike is a mere 0.5% increase. That might as well be noise.
Don't believe any graph whose y-axis starts at any value but 0 people.
It does start at zero. 2000 people per hour
Indeed the right sides of the graph start at 0. The left side does not.
Note that 2000/h (10^3) aren't all that significant when there's already 14000000 (10^7) users present.
Is a quarter percent increase in users in one day meaningful? I have no idea.
Well. It is and it isn't. It's per hour. So per day (24^1) that's 48000 (48*10^3) and per year it's 17532000 (1.7*10^7). That adds up pretty fast, a 100% increase in the full year.
Plus, hey, new friends!
Both right axes start at zero. They're the important part of the graph.
If you talk about a new wave of users, then the number of users is also important, really important
It clearly shows a major update in signups
Plus the second graph shows the average number of instances went down compared to yesterday, which was itself down further from the day before.
This "wave" is looking mighty sus.
Yeah, a couple days of temporary spike does not a wave make.
Mastodon (and the Fediverse) tends to see "scalloped" growth: big increases, followed by gradual declines. Every time Musk does something dumb, you see days or weeks of increased signups. Then the new users fall off, and they become inactive. Usually, it stabilizes a little higher than the last wave.
The waves come in, and the tide rises. The weather passes over, but the climate stays stable (or increases).
If Twitter collapses, then the tsunami arrives. :P
Reread the caption. That second graph tracks active instances
Please Reddit, do it
Actually praying for the corporate/political astroturf campaigns to work this time. Just this once
Yeah I'm tired of having to look up something, only to find that I have to stop Google from trying to log back into my banned Reddit account.
It's amazing I've been on Lemmy for months now and I've yet to be banned from anything on it, it's almost like not having normies modding out of a desire to solely Power Trip is good for business
See, capitalism is good!
When it's imploding on itself, that is.
Enshittification has collapse as its fourth phase, but we tend to forget that.
Forget, intentionally ignore for short term profit, same difference.
Capitalism seems Eternal and unbreakable, but they said the same thing about the divine right of kings.
Haha that comment reminded me of a scene from a recent Simpsons episode "The Serfsons"
See how the heads of rich people get the tallest pikes with the best view?
It's so unfair.
I told you to lay off feudalism.
It's the only system we know.
We have no choice about it, and therefore it's the best.
I hope it ends in the same way 🇫🇷
A wise woman once said..
"Keep your party in the USA, Viva la France!" - Joanne D'Arc
Firefish is a way better experience than Mastodon, of course shares content; https://joinfirefish.org/
Thanks for posting this. It's hard not to become the "but muh firefish" guy every time a thread like this pops up.
Solves nearly every complaint I've seen about the Mastodon interface, has features I haven't even seen folks ask for (I like the "antennas" feature a lot), federated with Mastodon, and will guide you through importing everyone you follow or who follows you - literally migrating your Mastodon account over in just a couple clicks.
I'm not anti-Mastodon whatsoever, but for the folks who find it klunky, Firefish is the answer for sure.
I like the fediverse theme of naming their platforms animals
It looks pretty cool, but I can't help but feel that a really catchy name for a service is important. I wish it weren't true as it is such an insignificant aspect of an entire platform.
Either way I'm going to sign up and check it out.
I'll have to check that out if nothing else but for the name. Friend of mine and I have had a running gag for 20+ years around 'firefish'.
Honestly the Twitter thing has been great for shifting the internet zeitgeist in a decidedly fuck-billionaires direction. The material suffering was obviously already here in abundance, but now the shittiness has come to the home of the people who are comfortable enough to keep posting through the growing poverty around them, and they rightfully hate it.
There has got to he some other narrative going on here. Is there a super profitable way for him to declare x bankrupt or something?
I find it really difficult to believe there is any benefit to him buying and killing Twitter for billions of dollars. It would have to be extremely contrived and possibly a really well kept conspiracy.
We know there's no benefit to him here because a court forced him to go through with the purchase after he tried to back out. He did not want this mess.
Yeah at first it appears it was a major screw up but the screw ups keep coming so i wonder.
Even before Twitter was purchased it was in a really delicate balancing act of profitability. Any misstep that seemed slightly too much had advertisers and users leaving and the opposite meant Twitter couldn't make a profit. Perhaps anyone purchasing Twitter would tip that scale with anything they tried, but Elon here instead of walking back his decisions when they don't work keeps doubling down.
Twitter doesn't generate profits:
Twitter has been operating at a massive loss for years, failing to book an annual profit since 2019 (Mauer, 2022). For eight out of the last ten years, the company has posted a loss.
If anyone wants to nitpick over the 2/10 years when they reported profitability, consider the real value of getting in the black twice in company history in an environment where you're gearing up for a an IPO. The long-term trend is clearly that this is not a viable business model.
Which is why I find it really hard to believe it's not intentional even if I don't understand the end game.
Delicately balanced is one thing. Making repeated decisions that my technophobe father could see are stupid is another.
I flipped from "wow he's really mismanaging this" to "wow he's trying to kill it" about 2 months ago, and have become nothing but more convinced since then.
I'm almost entirely with you on this.
But the only thing causing mind on my doubt is how excessively impulsive and not-in-control-of-himself Enlo often seems. That's the only thing that makes "this is just a serious of very stupid decisions made in the heat of the moment" even somewhat plausible.
Yeah, it's very typical human to double down when things start to go wrong. It's this kind of stubborn bloody minded mindset and a lot of luck that saved Tesla when it was balancing on a knife's edge and same with SpaceX, he kept pushing his crazy ideas but they worked out in the last second. However, Twitter is a different beast entirely, it's not going to be saved by manufacturing, it's about something Elon Musk does poorly with: people.
I think people just don't want to believe that the wealthy and powerful can be that stupid. But why not? Elon Musk was born into a wealthy family and then got super, super lucky during the .com boom. He can absolutely make stupid decisions.
Elon didn't say he would charge all the X/Twitter users. The media just made that up.
Good for Mastodon, though.
Elon didn’t say he would charge all the X/Twitter users.
What do you mean by that? He didn't say he was definitely going to do so right now, but he proposed it with quite some degree of seriousness. I don't intend to watch the whole video with Netanyahu to make sure what he said exactly, but all the articles I've seen are too detailed and explicit for it to be just an aside that the media blew out of proportion.
Seems like that’s what he said to me, a “monthly payment to use the platform”…am I reading it wrong?
Elon Musk says X, formerly known as Twitter, is considering having its users pay a "small monthly payment" to use the social media platform.
Musk did not elaborate on how much payment would be to use X, but said it would be a "small amount of money."
Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-x-twitter-monthly-payment/
You're telling me an industry that profits off viewership might occasionally put wrong information in a headline to get more attention?
But is it good or bad?!