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[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • Einloggen
  • Herunterscrollen und unten auf der Seite den Link „Datenschutz“ anklicken
  • dann bei Datenschutz festlegen den Link „Datenschutzeinstellungen“ anklicken
  • dann das Feld „Interessenbasierte Werbung“ anklicken
  • auf jeden der beiden Einträge klicken und den Schalter jeweils auf „aus“ schalten

. Translated from the above:

  • Log in
  • Scroll down and click on the “Privacy” link at the bottom of the page
  • then click on the "Privacy settings" link under Data & Privacy
  • then click on the “Interest-based advertising” (Personalized shopping) field
  • click on each of the two entries and set the switch to “off” in each case
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see this option. Is it only in specific countries?

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Did you follow the tutorial I posted? If so, the English-translated part may not have the right terminology. I followed the instructions on the linked website: https://www.404media.co/paypal-personalized-shopping-opt-out/. I suppose, this is appliccable worldwide.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My Data & Privacy section doesn't have anything that seems relevant:

screen shot of paypal data and privacy settings

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like you're missing the "Manage shared info" section and "Personalized Shopping" link, which yields the above toggle for me (CA, US)...

The question is, is it gone because your privacy laws make it impossible to even offer, or because your privacy laws don't require them to care about your opinion at all?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Normally we are a small enough market that it takes a while to be worth sorting out whether they comply with our laws.

One that comes to mind is that data can only be used for the purpose it's collected, so I suspect adding this and opting people in would probably not be allowed. Grey area though, as it's not clear to me (IANAL) whether updating TS & Cs and telling people would be enough to be considered getting user consent. I suspect not, though, I think it would need to be opt in so you've actively got user consent.

So, most likely it's because our privacy laws are a bit stronger than their threshold, but also possibly because a small country of 5 million people (where paypal isn't that common) isn't worth spending lawyers on to work out if they are allowed to.

[–] YerbaYerba@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mine looks different, I'm in the US. I disabled the toggle under the Personalized Shopping. Under 'Permissions you've given' there was an entry for 'PayPal shopping' that I also disabled.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

Might just be US for now until they sort out the legality of it in more privacy focused countries.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

What instructions? All I get is "this is for paid members only"

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in the EU, and both the fields are off already.

[–] raker@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also EU. Both options were enabled.

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Same. Not GDPR compliant, that's for sure.

[–] zout@fedia.io 3 points 1 year ago
[–] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I deleted when I heard they were levying an inactivity fee in Canada.

I don't live in Canada, but that was a shit move.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, charging money for not using a service, makes perfect sense! /s

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

From what that article says, this fee is only charged to a PayPal balance. I have no clue who's keeping a balance in a PayPal account, but it's not like they're going to charge someone's payment methods.

Not defending them, I just find it surprising that they have any customers this could even apply to.

[–] Mikelius@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I left like a decade ago when they asked me in a chat to verify my identity by answering a question asking what my first car purchase was. I've never given then my SSN or that kind of financial details, so the fact they had these questions and details about me terrified me at the time and I immediately requested to delete and close everything with them. Haven't used PayPal again since then.

[–] brettvitaz@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

What you experienced is a verification service provided by credit reporting agencies and has nothing to do with PayPal. I wouldn’t be concerned that PayPal has this information, because they don’t. There are probably better reasons to be concerned and to not use PayPal.

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not seeing anything about this in the settings for PayPal.ca account. Guess I'll keep checking to see if they sneak it in at a later date for us Canucks.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I went looking and didn't see anything in my account either. Now does that mean they aren't doing it in Canada? Or are they not giving us a choice to opt out?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

They opted me in. What a shock. I may never recover from the surprise.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Appreciate the news, I don't follow the million apps I'm forced to use closely so this is a great help to me. I guess I gotta use my venmo on patreon now.

[–] Deralax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No I'm just dumb. Appreciate the information yet again yall.

I guess I will... link a prepaid credit card to patreon?

Man I just wish the post office was a bank and it had a payment app that everyone used and I didn't have to switch platforms a million fucking times because of enshitification.

Appreciate your vote of confidence by the way.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear a class action lawsuit coming!

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Lawsuit wins
  • Lawyers get paid millions
  • Customers affected get maybe $9, for lower than their data was sold for
  • PayPal walks away with it as the price of doing business, no one involved is jailed.
[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Which is why there should be legal mechanisms to place legal responsibility for decisions like this personally on those in leadership positions when they're being made, even if those people no longer hold those positions.

You bet your ass the chucklefucks who came up with this little stunt would've thought twice about it if they knew that there was a decent chance they'd go to prison for it.

Also gotta make this shit sting the shareholders too: make the company pay the victims not only the estimated value of their data but also a portion of all profits made while a policy like this is in effect. Since there's no easy way to tell how much money was made off their data, unless the company has the numbers, let's say half.

Suddenly the quarterly report's got a nice repayment shaped dent in its side and all the sudden the shareholders care about following the law and respecting the rights of customers.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Damn. I'm a European citizen, I thought I'm save from opt-out bullshit.

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Flush that turd.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I got locked out my seldom-used PayPal account a few years ago. They decided to arbitrarily remove Google Voice as an SMS 2FA option (I want to say TOTP wasn’t supported when I signed up). I went to find out who to contact about authentication issues, but support, chicken-&-egg-style, requires authentication—even for auth issues—with no support@ email. I used the worst-case-scenario support option of Twitter but that support team banned me for messaging them about auth. Since I couldn’t get back into my account + the sheer incompetence of the support system, I never used & refused to use PayPal ever since. I am happy that my country prefers cash transactions & I can’t believe in the past I used a major bank credit card + major corp digital payment option for almost all purchases. Long live cash (& Monero/Zcash).

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Without reading, my guess is something convoluted like sending physical mail under a certain weight or sending an email within a certain date that has already passed. Imma go read it really quick and let you know how accurate I was.

Edit: Apparently you can just do it in the settings. But they will still do it "as necessary for transactions." Which means they'll probably still do it and just stretch what "necessary" means as far as they take it. Which is equally as shitty.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Check the newer comments, there may be a setting.