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I've heard very good things about high-EPA/decent DHA fish oil thats molecularly-distilled.

This seems to be a frequent recommendation (particularly if you don't eat seafood or fish) in many health circles and I'd like to get everyone's thoughts on best products, practices, etc.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Depends on what you want to take them for.

Most fish oil is completely ineffective:

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/fish-oil

https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/the-false-promise-of-fish-oil-supplements

Some medications can cause a CoQ10 deficiency, so if you're on one of those medications, you might need a supplement, but absent that, there's no reason to take fish oil.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most fish oil is completely ineffective:

I've personally noticed some powerful effects from fish oil: 1) it can act as a neotropic booster, particularly in conjunction with SRI's and similar meds / substances, 2) it can cause me significant insomnia (no arrhythmia) if I take ~6-8 capsules.

Is that germane to this thread? Probably not, but something seems to be going on. Maybe fish oil has been studied so far on too limited a basis.

@cheese_greater@lemmy.world

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I guess I should have said "ineffective for the various health claims". Anything can have an effect if taken in large enough doses. :)

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318619

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Understood; just wanted to add on.

My point is more or less that this doesn't have to be a closed-book situation about fish oil. Maybe it can help in some other way, and/or maybe it really can work as 'advertised' in conjunction with other substances. Certainly wouldn't be the first time, if so.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The other point I want to throw out there is that Omega 3 is essential, it cannot be endogenously provisioned, and I'm not sold that ALA sufficiently stands in for EPA and DHA

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you don't have heart disease, eating two servings of fatty fish weekly or following a vegetarian diet rich in healthy oils, nuts, and seeds is a far smarter strategy than buying fish oil supplements.

I don't do either of those things. They are essential. What do?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The easy part is adjusting your diet, far cheaper than fish oil.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I hate seafood and I won't start eating it. What do?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

From the 2nd link above:

"Vegetarians (who don't eat fish) and vegans (who avoid all animal-based foods) can meet their omega-3 requirements by eating plenty of ALA-rich foods, such as flaxseed, walnuts, pumpkin seeds, and soybean or canola oil. People who follow these plant-focused diets have lower rates of heart disease than omnivores, who include animal-sourced foods in their diets."

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it a fact that ALA is interchangeable with EPA/DHA, basically everything I've read on the matter talked more about those two than ALA

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

EPA and DHA are in seafood, so if you won't eat fish, that limits you to ALA.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
  • Dont those only contain ALA?
  • Is ALA sufficient over all three or more particularly those 2?
  • Does fish contain ALA?
[–] teuto@lemmy.teuto.icu 3 points 1 month ago

Just mix in some flaxseed meal whenever you cook anything that involves mixing. It doesn't taste like anything and has lots of fiber and omega-3s.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Blanket advice for supplements: health benefit is minimal. Cost is high.

Check with your doctor or dietician or some sort of expert with more credibility than random schmucks on the internet.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

And if you must, just grab the cheapest supermarket multivitamins and take only one. It probably won't do much, but at least you'll only waste a few pennies per day.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

(as long as you don’t have a shellfish allergy) krill oil – specifically “Neptune Krill Oil” (NKO) processed

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What makes that so good compared to alternatives?

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

krill oil contains particularly rich amounts of choline-containing phospholipids and a phosphatidylcholine concentration of 34 grams per 100 grams of oil”

“krill oil also contains an appreciable content of astaxanthin