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Microsoft is releasing a big Windows 11 update on September 26. Update 23H2 includes the new AI-powered Windows Copilot feature, a native RAR app, a new volume mixer and a lot more.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 124 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, another system wide crapware that nobody is going to use.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

They might as well call it Cortana AI

[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still chasing the dream of mainstream Clippy acceptance.

[–] rem26_art@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

fr tho, MS has been on the digital assistant thing for decades at this point.

Digital assistants are to Microsoft as Messaging apps are to Google.

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[–] arymandias@feddit.de 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I see you are trying to open the terminal, would you like me to:

A: break your knees

B: kill your entire family

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[–] Pyrrhichios@feddit.uk 48 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Gonna get downvoted to crap for this, but what the hell - hi, it's me, I'm that one guy who actually loves Windows a little more with every release. I'm continually surprised by the good stuff that's baked into the OS now (e.g. Much better multi-monitor support) and how the real power users can do a whole load more besides with Powertoys (key remapping!) - It's really encouraging to see that I need fewer and fewer specialist programs to get Windows to work just how I want.

I'm not wildly sold on AI being baked into the OS, but what the heck - Microsoft have earned their goodwill from me in recent years. I'll play around with it with interest.

[–] UnknownQuantity@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was like you until windows 10. I opted out of that. It just felt like losing control over my computer. Windows 11 even more so.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Same here. Switched to Linux because of that.

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'll be very surprised if AI is actually "baked into" the OS. A client to their cloud AI will be baked in, but that's not the same thing IMO.

(btw powertoys is great, multimonitor support is great too, if they finally fix the task bar I might finally go to Win11)

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

A client to their cloud AI will be baked in

That would instantly kill the feature for me. Hope its easy to remove but I know how shitty MS is about getting that data.

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Much better multi-monitor support

Tell that to the Snipping Tool.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was dealing with this yesterday it's so stupid.

When I press the screenshot button on my keyboard it should only screenshot the display that the cursor is currently on. There is absolutely no reason that it should screenshot the entire display.

[–] Dvixen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Window key + Shift + S

Select only what you need.

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[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"a new volume mixer" - please just be an interface change and nothing dramatic 👀

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or make it open when clicking the icon instead of hiding it behind two clicks. Everytime I use Windows, I love KDE more.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Going off of Dave Plummer's video, looks like copilot is kind of a wash. It has the potential to do some neat stuff on desktop, but its crappily shoehorned into the OS instead.

[–] Kerfuffle@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"This time you're going to love Cortana. For reals!"

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[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every tech company is pulling this stupid bullshit now. Mine is also trying to find any way they can to shoehorn an LLM into their product. It's marketing BS

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Underpants gnomes economics.

  1. Integrate AI into everything, even where it doesn't make any damn sense.

  2. ???

  3. Profit.

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[–] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Can we just ungroup the damned Taskbar already? I don't understand why they are being so stubborn on this.

[–] Nankeru@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago

That's already available for insiders and can be enabled, meaning it will soon-ish come to the stable versions of Windows 11.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That's the number one reason I stayed on 10. I'm figuring out a swap to Linux - gaming is my only concern. Might just dual boot.

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Other than game devs who intentionally block Linux with anti-cheat (Epic, Riot) almost all other games work perfectly fine on Linux nowadays.

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[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

This is a LOT of people currently. We all want off of this Microsoft crapfest. Luckily a lot of us bailed on Windows 11 so we won’t have to deal with this further enshittification of windows.

Gaben had a talk about the future of Linux gaming so things are moving and windows will finally be a forgotten memory.

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[–] GibSteamCodes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I recommend StartAllBack. Granted no third party apps should be required for such a simple feature, StartAllBack does this and more.

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Man fuck that shit.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I look at what Windows 11 is, its features and the new features, I honestly can’t work out who Microsoft’s target market is anymore.

With the pricing for AI, I can’t even work out which enterprises would consume it.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here's the funny thing. Some enterprise sectors will not use W11 until it has some sysadmin reliable way to disable all the telemetry. In my company W11 and Chrome are banned because they cannot be locked down from phoning home, which is a security liability. No way they're going to allow a rogue blackbox LLM running wild in our computers.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just have to use the Enterprise addition and group policy out their stuff. It isn't really hard if you have been doing it with Windows 10 but you have to start with the Enterprise addition and that can be $$$

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They explored that option and find it not secure enough. Even with strict group policy settings W11 still misbehaves. We are locked to W10 for the time being, but ICT is not convinced for how long we can keep it.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

they are making excuses, I get to see the firewall data and Win11 isn't really different from Win10 that hasn't been cleaned up

The thing is, if you use Office 365 the point is moot and if you use any cloud system, its straight out the door already

[–] akaifox@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

a native RAR app

It better come with a "Trial Expired" pop-up or I am not using it

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

The only feature I'm looking forward to is the ability to ungroup multiple instances of the same program in the talk bar. That feature was around forever but for some reason they disabled it in Windows 11.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

How do I install the nVidia drivers on Linux? I asking in case I decide to finally switch (found some Linux DAW, now all is happy, likely will go with Ubuntu + KDE).

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[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Clippy on steroids.

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