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Elon Musk is piling onto all the hurricane disinformation, hampering relief efforts (www.politico.com)
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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It's completely insane that Bidens admin hasn't ordered all of his companies with federal contracts to completely seperate musk from the companies or the contracts would be voided.

And I know Harris won't do it either.

We'd need a much better president than we can get to do the right thing and stop the privatization of our government

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's ridiculous that he still has a security clearance. Anyone else acting out in the way he has been would have the DOD all up in their shit. It is obvious at this point that he is a threat to national security, his public drug use and unhinged behavior alone should have been enough. Now he is getting hurricane rescue workers threatened and terrifying disaster victims into not receiving government assistance, it's absolutely monstrous and fundamentally anti-American. That he is also trusted with secret information about US national security and receives billions of dollars from the US government is completely absurd.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yep

Obama privatized space and let Musk have the contracts, trump never reigned him in when he got crazier, and Biden just pretends it's not happening

It's why I have zero expectations Harris will do the right thing and move away from privatizing government agencies.

None of this should ever have happened, but both parties are ok with it and we just do t have a 3rd option.

It's going to be painful whenever we do it, but we need a complete overhaul of our political system, no one is really getting any representation except the richest

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean we could start by voting in primary elections. It's wild how many people simply ignore them. That's like the main reason I tend to blame the American people a teeny bit more for what's going on over the actual politicians and sheriffs we choose to elect

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I mean we could start by voting in primary elections

Tell that to people in New Hampshire....

They voted against the party favorite twice, so they didn't get a primary this year.

The DNC said unless the Republicans who control the state government change state law, NH isn't going to get a primary anymore, because they want the first states to be ones that will vote how the party wants so they can call it over after a week.

The 2028 primary will be just as competitive as the 2024 primary was. It's almost guaranteed to be trump and Harris again in the next general already

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's very interesting! I could totally see that happening

Do you have a source you can share? Only asking since I looked up "New Hampshire Democrat primary" and didn't immediately find anything other than primary results

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

primary results

Yeah ..

I didn't even get to that can of worms.

The DNC said it wouldn't count, Biden said he was pulling out since it didn't count and took his name off the ballot, then Biden and the DNC (victory fund means the money is basically the same) spent millions for a write in campaign after he took himself off the ballot so the narrative would be "Biden still won, he's that popular!" Even though the only other person running didn't have millions of dollars to spend on a fight that didn't matter. So only Biden ran ads despite taking himself off the ballot.

Here's a good article about it:

The outcome is more symbolic than anything. The Democratic National Committee broke with tradition this year and chose South Carolina to hold its first primary of the year, on Feb. 3. But New Hampshire has a law requiring it to go first, so it went ahead with its vote anyway.

As a result of the dispute, New Hampshire's delegates won't be seated at the Democratic National Convention in August, and the results won't count toward Biden's official nomination.

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/23/1225663027/joe-biden-wins-nh-primary-results

The whole thing was incredibly fucked and the type of shenanigans only Republicans would usually pull

Quick edit:

Oh yeah. And this part:

The Democratic National Committee broke with tradition this year and chose South Carolina to hold its first primary of the year, on Feb. 3

The primaries are ran by the state parties, the DNC has no authority to "choose" what states go first, it's just especially since the "victory find" nonsense, the state parties do t have a lot of power and the DNC has way more than it ever has.

But I just wanted to clarify despite how that's phrased, the DNC has no say in when state primaties are held, which is why it's so fucked they want to stack the deck with states who will vote for "moderates" and not NH who just kept voting for Bernie every four years...

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I doubt it. Trump is definitely showing his age and I can’t imagine him being willing to do it all again in four years

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

"do it all again"?

You think running for president is stressful for trump?

He goes to rallys, rambles for a couple of hours, and everyone tells him he's great and cheers for him.

It's probably his favorite thing he gets to do, the adoration of a crowd is what he's always wanted, he'll never give it up.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s why I have zero expectations Harris will do the right thing and move away from privatizing government agencies.

The 'right thing' is letting entrepreneurs make money. Yes, it might cause long-term costs in terms of societal breakdown. But, also, it might cause short-term profit in terms of those extremely wealthy people giving money to a political campaign.

After all, what's most important is that politicians enrich people who then 'trickle down' a tiny portion of it back to those hardworking politicians who bravely made the world worse.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

These sound like arrestable offenses

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Here's the thing.

  • SpaceX is almost a space bus service where Boeing is a trash fire.
  • SpaceX's rockets can deploy troops to anywhere on the planet in like an hour after launch, and send automated cargo rockets
  • starlink is a great info weapon
  • driverless ambulances? Ship us some when they're ready

Until they can separate Elon from Tesla/etc they have to abide.

Edit: rapid cargo isn't a thing yet, okay, but neither was weekly satellite launches until it was. You guys glossed over driverless warzone ambulances and fixated on rockets as the thing to brigade over? That's the only thing one of his companies seems to be doing well, and all before that DoD pork gets in. Be consistent, kids.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Shipping troops via rocket? I'ma need to see the source on that

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Putting 6 armed troops in a very expensive missile and dropping them in a very predictable trajectory with very poor accuracy sounds like a very expensive way to create gold star families.

Consider this. If you needed 6 very well armed troops in an area, why not just give a pile of money to the enemy's troops to flip a few?

You could pay them each 10 mil, and give them a green card, and you'd save 900k on the launch cost alone. Not to mention it would be less predictable, more covert, and it would induce paranoia in the ranks.

[–] machineLearner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

second bullet is something he came up with high on k. That rocket hasn’t made it to space yet

[–] specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My brother is a plumber. The guy knows his shit. He’s been doing it a long time and he works hard as hell and he can talk you to death about piping a 40 story building. He also works for all his friends and family for free on the weekends. I act as his helper sometimes and his focus and attention to detail is amazing.

And he still has imposter syndrome sometimes.

He asked me how the fuck guys like Elon Musk can talk about stuff like they know what they’re talking about because it’s impossible to know everything about everything in a lifetime.

My brother, Elon is a dishonorable piece of shit that is too stupid to know he’s stupid.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I admire the hell out of natural engineers. Elon isn't one. Your brother is.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

It's quite common with people who are incredibly successful, they figure:
"Hell, I'm successful in xyz, I must be really smart at everything. Everyone should listen to what I have to say about everything because I made it, and that means I clearly know better than everyone else!"

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Elon's a narcissist, your brother is not.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i don't understand the disconnect here, Elon was just born with money vs your brother learning a skill, and you didn't even explain what your grievance was.

[–] specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just the ability to be introspective and honest.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago

Can we just go back to "lie" please?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course he is. It's not like he's going to suffer from it.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He'll have to spend an assistant's time fraudulently inflating his vacation home(s) destroyed by the hurricane so that he profits. And then spend all that time and brain space deciding what he wants in the rebuild.

Billionaires suffer too.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

My heart bleeds for him.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

“FEMA used up its budget ferrying illegals into the country instead of saving American lives. Treason,” Musk wrote without evidence on X

It's infuriating that just because some powerful people demand it, this fake claim gets spread everywhere just before the election, while Trump's very real decision to send Vladimir Putin covid testing equipment for his personal use while American hospitals were struggling gets almost zero attention and fully silenced on the platforms used by people who need to hear it.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope I live to see musk face consequences. Preferably ruinous consequences that don't take down a bunch of bystanders

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or at least some kind of horrible cancer. Normally I wouldn't wish that kinda thing on anyone, but considering how much of a cancer on society he is, I feel he's earned it. Maybe he'll pull a Steve Jobs and figure he knows better than his drs and leave it too long to be treatable.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's either this, or he drowns in his cybertruck after accidentally backing it into a pond. That much hubris has consequences.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

We can only hope

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago

A fool and his money…..