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  • Price: 370$
  • Model: Asus ROG Strix G15 (G531GV)
  • CPU: Intel I7 9th Gen
  • GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060 6GB
  • Ram: 16GB
  • Storage: Samsung SSD 980 Pro 1TB (NVME)
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[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 26 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

How often do you write the word "wads"? I can see a potential problem.

[–] faultypidgeon@programming.dev 9 points 2 hours ago

ht o you men? You cn typ jut fine ith keybor like tht.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 5 points 1 hour ago

They're clear keycaps.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Solid device

However, your battery life is going to be like 2 minutes

[–] Cornelius@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

This

Gaming laptops usually have atrocious battery life, especially ones with Intel i9s and comparatively weak GPUs. Means they put the whole budget of the laptop into the CPU and nothing else.

[–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

For that price I'd buy it myself

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Did someone spraypaint this before removing stickers from it? Because if that is the case hell yea buy it. You will never agaín find a laotop with such style ever again. Especially at that price.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 15 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

2060, 9th gen and 1Tb SSD for 400 is a good deal in my opinion. Don’t fear the nvidia BS spreaded here, with an up to date distro, it is no problem

I use my 780 with endeavourOS and latest proprietary driver without issues. I had to switch some packages from the nauvau edition to the nvidia editions. (Vulcan and cuda stuff)

In kde settings about page you can easily check if vulcan is running good

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The main limitation of Nvidia gpu's is you can't use Wayland on most WM's (you can on Ubuntu, but then you're using Ubuntu)

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I think since version 550 of the proprietary driver, it is mostly possible, if your card is compatible (meaning not legacy), but yea, I as well have to switch ch to X.org for some things. (Proton Cyberpunk, for example)

For legacy cards, the open source driver are most of the time best bet, if you are not running a legacy kernel since nvidia does not update those anymore (there are community patches of legacy proprietary driver to make them work on newer kernel, but they often have less features than using the card with nouveau)

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

NVIDIA drivers are notoriously bad. They break and WILL depreciate your card eventually, forcing you to switch to the slow open source drivers.

I have had two cards lose support. It's absurd.

But for 370 it's kinda a steal honestly.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I would love to here more info about your issue, I bet there was just a misunderstanding 😇

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I have Nvidia gt210 in office, and latest Linux mint installed, no proprietary drivers for my GPU is installable, they exist, yes, but you can't install them on latest Linux mint

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

That seems like old nvidia card (shortly googled). For those, nvidia deserves all the fuck you it gets 😂 they don’t offer proprietary drivers for legacy card on newer kernel. For most, there exist community patched versions, but nouveau is often more feature rich (and works with wayland!). Many legacy nvidia cards require you to boot from legacy BiOS and won’t work from UEFI -> is is especially infuriating on old Mac, since those need to boot from a CD in order to be able to easily install Linux using legacy bios (there are ways to convert a EFI install, but I, till now, always failed that approach..). At least, as soon as you have grub2 and legacy bios set up, you can use grub to boot feom a iso file on your harddisk without switching back to EFI)

This card in the laptop is not legacy and even “works” with wayland on proprietary drivers

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for your reply) most of the negative opinions people have about proprietary drivers is exactly this, they become obsolete, open source drivers on the other hand, does not, you and me agree on this, love your positive outlook on everything, feels refreshing, thank you)

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's 2000 series, so they are supported by the new OSS driver, no?

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CHKMRK@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

Probably still for some time. I have a laptop with a NVIDIA Optimus 1050ti from 2016 or so and it's still going strong 8 years later. It starts getting a bit tricky (but not impossible) at 10+ years old cards

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

There's a lot of naysayers in here with ideas born out of fashion advice similar to the "if it tastes good, it's bad for you" crowd. That laptop is a fantastic deal so long as it's all in one piece! Nvidia has shaky driver support, but you'll be fine.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 38 points 15 hours ago

If there's nothing wrong beyond the hideous consmetic damage sure.

Some distros have some very specific images like this one that I would install if I had the same computer: 1000010590

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Older, out of support, nvidia drivers tend to break from time to time.

[–] notTheCat@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

I'm pretty sure it will be supported for more than a couple of years, my 930m (not even mx) is still receiving the latest driver updates

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'd tell them to knock 50-70 off for the condition of the surfaces. No idea about the model and specs or if that's worth it but that's an ugly case on it and I would be grossed out using it, would probably have to tape a sheet of paper over the worn out spots to be comfortable touching that surface.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

My laptop, similar Taiwanese brand, is fairly new and already beginning to look like this. I don't know why they have to be such cheapskates with the crappy fake metal finish. Somehow we can find enough aluminum to make disposable Coke cans out of it but it's too expensive for a laptop casing.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What model?

It sounds like a really cheap model.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Model and price is unimportant. But if metal's too expensive and they can't do a fake chrome finish that doesn't wear off in 5 minutes then then they should just stick to white or black.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Sure, but I'm just curious because of course a very cheap model is very cheaply constructed.

Also comparing cans to machined aluminium is pretty weird when they are completely different.

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 20 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

Gaming laptops have some of the worst builds. They break down very easily. This is why people go for Thinkpads and Elitebooks. I think that you can get yourself a 7th/8th gen Thinkpad Pxy, P1 or X1 Extreme series with a gDPU, and that would be a better deal - but do remember, they all have Nvidia dGPUs. And if you don't really need a dGPU, then there's the Thinkpad T series with the Ryzen processor.

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[–] aspitzer@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Nvidia works just fine on Linux despite what anyone says. People are just upset because it's a closed source driver. I have used Nvidia exclusively for like decades without issue. Just purchased an RTX3090ti (upgrade from a 2060) for Ollama, InvokeAI, and ComfyUi. Plus I do a lot of gaming. All of it works right out of the box with no tweaking.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 4 hours ago

People are just upset because it's a closed source driver.

Absolute nonsense. I've attempted to install them on several Nvidia devices with no success. Even distros that explicitly state Nvidia support out of the box. Could I have made it work? Maybe. Do I have time to fuck with it? No. Just get AMD and be guaranteed it'll work. Why bother?

Just because you've had a different experience doesn't invalidate others'.

[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 11 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

My experience with Nvidia (granted, 3 years old experience):

Going with the closed source driver means stuff breaking each kernel update. Going with the opensource driver (while it may work for you): not everything is supported.

So its not just "people being annoyed with Nvidia" i'd say.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Did you use your package manager and dkms? You need to recompile the driver hook with each kernel update.

I've had Nvidia cards since the Riva TNT2 and it's been reasonably smooth sailing... 🤷‍♂️

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn't sound remotely like "smooth sailing"...

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

I suppose if you don't know what you're doing - that's true. It's not something unique to nvidia either - it's true of any drivers outside the kernel source. But that's what dkms is for - it automatically handles it for you when you update your kernel.

If you don't want to learn how the system you use works then you suffer the consequences. Or you just continue to blame nvidia for your own ignorance as I'm sure you will.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (6 children)

Man I wish my time with Nvidia was as easy as you claim it to be.

I had a 1080 Ti that I was forced to sell because Nvidia drivers made my PC unusable.

The performance drop going from a 1080 Ti to a RX 580 was huge, but it was well worth it for a system that would actually work reliably.

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