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I really don't have a problem with this. She's a center right candidate from a center right party - of course she'll make an appeal to center right voters.
Sure, I wish we had a left wing candidate or a left wing party. But you can't vote in the election you want, you vote in the election you've got.
There's no point appealing to the fascists. They prefer the better fascist.
Working with fascists gives fascists power. And fascists have money to give to centrists to move further right.
Why else would they not want money? It's not like lives at home are in danger, the lives abroad clearly don't matter much.
And she's inviting the actual right into the party. So now we can have our conservative party and our batshit crazy party. No need to even talk about progressive policies! Yay!
Somehow R destroying themselves resulted in a loss for the left. R just gets to join D and it's all good, high fives and hugs, despite who they voted for and supported since 2016, despite their continued assault on the queer community, despite their rampant overt bigotry and racism.
Sure, I wish we had a left wing candidate or a left wing party. But you can’t vote in the election you want, you vote in the election you’ve got.
Exactly. This is billionaire media controlled America. We don't get to have a left wing party, we get a "left wing" relative to the rightmost wing party which also goes and calls their so-called left wing opposition communist... It's laughably absurd.
America is a center-right country. Anyone on the left will always be unhappy.
We have a strongly right leaning elite and a government that was never designed to represent the will of the majority is how I would put it.
That is a lot nicer than admitting we’re actually in the minority.
Leftists are a minority in name only. If capitalists didn't work tirelessly to paint anything beneficial to the working class as "evil communism", the majority of Americans would support policies that benefit them.
The longer I live the less I believe that
Almost every poll that I've seen for ~20 years which asks about policies shows that most left wing positions have at least 50-60% support.
There was a great study years back from princeton looking at the difference between policy outcomes and public preferences at the time. They concluded the US has been an oligarchy since at least the 70s, since no major policy outcome has matched public opinion.
The farthest right faction of our elites are currently pulling so far to the right of the population that the flimsy theatre of representation we have now is actually proving a barrier. Republicans wouldn't be supressing votes if people wanted their ideas.
Left wing positions like Medicare for All or left wing positions like converting all corporations into worker cooperatives?
I haven't seen any opinion polls on abolishing heirarchy yet.
Maybe they've tried but every call ended with them being called a commie and hung up on.
Time for republicans to prove they aren't the party of fascists.
Yeah, I'll be be waiting with baited breath...
Why? They just have to hold out until Democrats become fascists to appeal to them.
Won't happen, bothsideism is horse shit.
Which is why the "good" party has adopted Republicans' policies on genocide and the border.
Centrists are just itching to move right.
They've already done that and that's why the Republicans are flocking to them.
I wouldn't say "flocking" but they got Cheney and Bush on board, and they're so proud that they moved far enough to the right to get there.
They've bragged about over 200 republicans
To be fair, if you're still an "undecided" voter at this point, you're an oblivious (or single-issue) idiot at best, and a dishonest person taking advantage of workers at worst.
I'm not even sure I understand the meme. It feels like the last section was supposed to be something further left than liberal like "uncommitted". I'm sure the campaign thinks "we'll be both parties" is also supposed to appeal to undecided voters.
yeah thats what I should have put.
I just refuse to believe this will work. Harris' plan is seriously to try and court die-hard "Always-Republicans" by hoping that the group who chooses a candidate because it's what their parents voted for will have the critical thinking skills to realize Donald Trump is unfit for the presidency.
Meanwhile, every little thing like this makes it harder and harder for leftists to stomach her. None of this motivates any Democrats to go to the polls and cast a vote for her. You can criticize a lot about Trump's campaign, but they're focused on the only thing that matters; energizing their supporters to vote.
This is the same thing Hillary did in 2016. "Trump is bad. Therefore, you have to vote for me." I mean, the identical rhetoric has already shown its ineffective head in this thread.
Its always the voters that are wrong. The party or candidate can never fail; it can only be failed.
And they've been priming the media with supposed Russia and China misinformation so they can point fingers and blame when they lose.
Yup. They would rather lose democracy forever and have someone to blame than even consider abandoning their support for genocide.
As the Dark Sith Lord Mitchell McConnell once stated: “winning is the only thing that matters, winning means you have the power, winning means you get to make the rules.” (Paraphrasing)
If you want left wing policies, like Obamacare or the inflation reduction act, if you want the green new deal or Medicare for all, then the left have to be in power. Else it’s a crapshoot what we get (hey, republicans were the ones that put the D in Medicare).
It’s not that hard of a concept. Lefties will continue to do lefty things when they have the power and votes to do so.
If you want left wing policies, like Obamacare or the inflation reduction act, if you want the green new deal or Medicare for all, then the left have to be in power.
The left isn't running in this election.
Lefties will continue to do lefty things when they have the power and votes to do so.
How many more majorities do we have to give them before we can call this out for the disgusting lie it is?
"One is a fascist, one doesn't say they support my opinion, another one will split the vote and give the fascist victory. It's so hard to choose man."
-literally nobody.
It'd be nice if she didn't need to do this, but the current reality is that we need the centralists. A couple of old, but good articles, which explain why: https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/11/22/13713148/electoral-college-democracy-race-white-voters & https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/1/29/16945106/democrats-white-working-class-demographics-alabama-clinton-obama-base
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