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I've always thought that mold is the fungus, and to mould is to shape. When talking about it with my colleagues yesterday, I was surprised that this isn't common. Most people use one of the two spellings to refer to both.

Doing a quick search on duckduckgo also confirms that:

In my quest to prove them wrong, I was surprised at how wrong I was... until I discovered a few people on the internet who said the same thing:

I'm not looking for what's correct or incorrect anymore, I just find it very fascinating that there are some people who use the words similarly to me, but the vast majority of others who use it in a different way.

So: what's the difference between mould and mold according to you?

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[–] Occultist0178@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Steve Mould obviously

[–] trk@aussie.zone 43 points 1 year ago

I’ve always thought that mold is the fungus, and to mould is to shape.

I actually do this too. Not because I think it's correct as such, but because that way I am consistent and I know what I'm talking about when I read back previous text that I've written.

I remember it by Mold = simplified English = simple organism.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use “mold” for both, and regard “mould” as the British spelling for both.

But the etymologies are interesting—the verb comes from French modle, while the fungus comes from late Middle English mould. So if anything, your assumed distinction is etymologically reversed.

[–] ABasilPlant@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That seems to be the consensus online. But thanks for that tidbit! It feels even more bizarre now knowing that.

I wonder why a handful of people think the way I presented in the post. Perhaps American/British influences in certain places? Reading books by british authors and books by american authors at the same time? Feels unlikely.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You know that there are two unrelated words, and you’ve seen two different spellings—it’s a natural assumption that the latter stems from the former.

Why so many people would pair them up the same (etymologically unsupported) way, I don’t know... maybe we’re used to correlating words relating to art with French, and assuming that words with “ou” come from French as well (and this case just happens to be an exception).

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moulding is the trim around walls and whatnot. Molding is when something is in the process of having mold growing on it.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that be mouldering?

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe. I honestly don't know. Not really my field of expertise.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Moldering: "to crumble into dust, to rot"

All the definitions of molding I can find, are about shaping something.

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 14 points 1 year ago

I use what you do

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I say mould because I'm English and that's just how it's spelled here (we also pronounce it with a U, pronouncing it without the U as mold would be...strange).

Not an overly exciting response I know, but there you go :P

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you pronounce the U? Do you pronounce mould like should, would, or could? Is your pronunciation of mould then closer to mud than old with an M in front?

[–] Affidavit@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pronounced 'moeoueieueld'. You really need to emphasise the 'a' sound to get it right.

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I bit my tongue, thanks

[–] ericatty@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I'm realizing, I don't pronounce the L in those words... Maybe they pronounce it liked mulled?

[–] Affidavit@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In honesty (my last comment was clearly not legit), you likely do pronounce the 'L'; most accents will include this in my experience.

Does the tip of your tongue touch the roof of your mouth just on or behind the ridge before your front teeth? If you release your tongue before pronouncing the 'D' is there a release of air? If you do position your tongue here and there is no release of air before pronouncing the 'D' (which does release air), then you are pronouncing the 'L'.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I could see some accents not pronouncing the L. It may colour the vowel, but not be a distinct sound on its own.

[–] dan@upvote.au 9 points 1 year ago

In Australia, I used to use them the opposite way as you: "mould" for the fungus, and "mold" to shape. These days I live in the USA and use "mold" for both.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I always thought mould was the fungus and to mold was to manipulate a material

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I'm Canadian, and we use a mix of British and American spellings, mostly depending on how we feel at the time of writing.

This is how I use it. So one could mold mould if they were so inclined.

I do this too, to keep them separate in my head. I get that they’re interchangeable.

[–] fjordbasa@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

American here, I’ve never used “mould” for any definition, personally- always “mold”

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I do the same as you. Although I usually default to the UK's use of u's. Just feels right.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

"mould" should be pronounced the same as would or could

[–] Zubgub@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

I thought the same for the longest time. I blame playing tons of runescape as a kid.

I am an American so mold spelling is definitely what I ran into when referring to the fungus. Runescape is British English, so you used moulds all the time in crafting.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I use mold for everything, but don't really bat an eye at using mould for the tool that is used to make parts which I see pretty often through my work.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

If you browse Canadian tool shops in Southern Ontario, Canada you will see thrm named Tool and Mold, or Tool and Mould. Nobody agrees Lol

[–] frazorth@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On a related tangent, because I see that this is mostly discussed to death, I dont get why Americans decided to merge other unrelated words.

For example, being exhausted and the rubber circle that cars and bikes use to roll smoothly are the same word in American English whereas we (UK) use different spellings.

Tire - Being exhausted

Tyre - Round rubber wheel thing

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Like many of the differences, I suspect that one came out of the attempts as English Spelling Reform, which took greater hold in the US. Ultimately, the process hasn't succeeded, but it has excised some of inconsistencies from the English. Though, it has also led to some confusion, as in the tire/tyre case.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This one bugs me too. I want to differentiate!

This:

...is not this:

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I made a 3d printed tomato cube mold a while back and used "mold". It was a 50/50 shot

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which oune wold yo souggest?

[–] ABasilPlant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~I suggest using two different spellings:~~

~~Mold is the fungus. To mould is to shape.~~

Nvm I'm an idiot. Lol

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

You have my vote for your interpretation, that had always been my understanding too.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I use "mold" for the fungus and the tool, "mould" for composted soil.

Dont both mean shape but only mold refers to the fungus?

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I use both, they are two separate words, not one word with multiple spellings.

Not sure why people are changing it. Yes, language evolves, but maybe we could all focus on evolving it in areas that actually need evolution?

[–] Elextra@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago

Mold because I'm American

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

i see mold i use clorox

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a fair number of people who insist that "geek" and "nerd" mean two different, specific things. I think this is the same phenomenon, that people seek nuance where there isn't because it makes the language seem more interesting or something.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

The words have very different origins. While I think they converged for a time, they started out different.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've been confused about it in the past, but I eventually settled on mould if it grows and mold if it's taking shape. I'm willing to let the rest of the internet be wrong about it, though.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I am also aware that they are spelled the same, but I consciously use a U only for the organism.

For what it's worth, I'm Canadian, so nobody would bat an eye here at using either the American or British spelling of things.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ain't nobody got time for extra u's

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They're great. I always use them.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Colour would like a word with you.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. Color is absolutely fine

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It's not fine, but you're free to spell how you like.