There's probably more nuance to it, but I consider someone an influencer if they try to sell me something other than their own product. Such as if they try to sell me their merch, that's still a content creator. Once they take sponsors and try to sell me something else not made by them, then they are an influencer. That's where I usually draw the line.
No Stupid Questions
No such thing. Ask away!
!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.
The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:
Rules (interactive)
Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.
All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.
Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.
Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.
Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.
Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.
Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.
That's it.
Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.
Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.
Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.
Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.
On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.
If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.
Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.
If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.
Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.
Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.
Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.
Let everyone have their own content.
Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.
Credits
Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!
The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!
even better when they bullied some maker to give up their stuff for ✨exposure✨
I'd say influencers business model is to sell stuff (sponsored content/merch) while creators goal is to live from sharing their content, by the means of selling their own merch or using sponsors.
I think it muddies the definition to apply a "goal" relative to their income to either of them. If someone makes content, they are a content creator, without question. Some want to make a living doing it, some just do it because they want to. Both are content creators, regardless of the income. Influencer/CC is a rectangle/square categorization. Influencers are akin to advertisers.
I completely disagree that a content creator who takes sponsors from other companies, are NOT influencers. If they are acting as an advertiser, then they are influncers, they are still content creators however. If a content creator is just making content and selling their own wares, they are effectively advertising themselves; which is totally fine. If I am engaging with their content, I am already interested in their work.
Narcissism.
Bingo.
If I like them = creator. If I hate them = influencer. Easy as.
Content creator is also a dumb term. Everything is content. We have filmmakers for people who make videos, vloggers for more casual ones, streamers for live video. Writers and bloggers are better words than "content creator"
Wikipedia lists influencer as a synonym for internet celebrity, so I guess just when they become famous.
Unless you take the title literally, then it's whenever they become influential over a statistically significant portion of the population.
This. Its a term from the marketing world.it literally says "able to influence people for marketing purposes" for whatever the threshold of followers is that makes them attractive for marketing purposes.
This will be my answer. Makes so much sense now.
Content creator == posts stuff online
Influencer == makes it their personality. Tends to be better at self-aggrandizement
Once a content creators content could infuence their viewers purchasing decisions.
Jay of Jayztwocents hates the term influencer, because (and I'm heavily paraphrasing) thats what the marketing people refer to content creators as. He does have influence as a content creator but the difference to him is that his "influence" is that his content is honest reviews and opinions. If his influence is that he tells you its shit and dont buy it. So be it, the company needs to make a better product.
ChatGPT's answer is on point:
A content creator is someone who produces and shares content online, such as videos, blog posts, or social media posts. An influencer, on the other hand, is a person who has the power to affect the purchasing decisions of others because of their authority. knowledge, position, or relationship with their audience. While content creators may also be influencers, not all influencers are content creators. Some influencers may simply share their opinions or experiences with their audience to influence their decisions.
I'm a content creator. I do influence people in a way. But since I'm light-years away from being able to live from that, and I won't sell Squarespace or shit like that on my show, I guess I'm not an influencer really.
What kind of content?
Podcast / YouTube show. Same thing, but one is audio only the other video, but the content is the same.
The show is discussing the world of work and how we can survive in it without being a victim, and owning our own narrative. It's in French, however.
number of followers
A large enough audience. Depends on the platform. Usually around 10000+.
Any audience that is influenced by them, really.
It's unlikely that there is consensus on where the line that separates them is, but to me influencers are showing their overall lifestyle (day in the life, vlogging, sharing their meals, routines, that kind of thing) and content creators are primarily generating something else that is not necessarily dependent on their lifestyle. I see it as educational content, creative content (arts, DIY, movie commentary, etc) news... I know content creators often expand into what I described as "influencer content", but that is often not their primary way of getting followers or focus of their attention, so I still think they are content creators.
If enough influential people call them an influencer, then they become an influencer.
Nothing. They call themselves influencers because it’s a trendy buzzword.
I'm pretty sure that just being big enough to have some influence makes them an influencer. Most names I hear about are definitely influencers by the time I hear about them.
Sense of self importance
'Influencer' is the business side word for content creators, because that's how companies see them. Content creators are able to influence the thoughts and buying decisions of their audience.
Influencer - asking for free shit or to be comped because of who they say they are.
If what they're doing is perceived to be good, they're a content creator, and if it's seen as something negative, they're an influencer.
I guess all content creators are influencers to some degree. Personally, I feel the word influencer doesn't apply to people I follow. Yet this may be because of me; I find it that ads really don't work on me. And I don't worship internet content creators like some people do.
Money