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Opinion | Voters punished Biden for problems he didn’t cause and effectively addressed (www.msnbc.com)

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Summary

President Joe Biden’s economic achievements—lowering inflation, reducing gas prices, creating jobs, and boosting manufacturing—are largely unrecognized by the public, despite his successes.

His tenure saw landmark legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS Act, and major infrastructure investments.

However, Biden's approval ratings remain low, attributed to inflation backlash, weak communication, and a media landscape prone to misinformation.

Democrats face a “propaganda problem” rather than a policy failure, with many voters likely to credit incoming President Trump for Biden’s accomplishments due to partisan messaging and social media dynamics.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 66 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

…no.

The DNC brain trust thought they could get away with ignoring an absolutely fucking HUGE part of their base. And they were fucking WRECKED for it.

Trump got just about the same number of votes as he did in the last election. Harris got 11M less votes than Biden got. ELEVEN. MILLION. PEOPLE. STAYED THE FUCK HOME. BECAUSE THEY SAW THE ESTABLISHMENT CIRCLEJERK. AND HARRIS FUCKING LEANED INTO IT. AND IGNORED THE VERY FUCKING REAL LIVED EXPERIENCE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS GETTING HOLLOWED OUT, AND THE LOWER CLASS CONTINUING TO GET CRUSHED TO DEATH.

And now we get to listen to pundits and DNC leadership and Biden admin people and Harris campaign people circlejerk themselves about how it wasn’t their fault, it was those goddamn progressives and the stupid Arab Americans who cared about Gaza too much.

Genuinely: fuck all the way off with that narrative. the Democratic Party snatched this defeat from the jaws of victory. There was a path to victory. They simply didn’t fucking take it.

[–] kiljoy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Exactly, who thought it was a good idea to campaign with the fucking Cheneys???????

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 days ago

thank fuck there’s at least one other angry & correct person online

you don’t get to capitulate to donald trump’s racist violent classist framing on everything for years and be held blameless after the fact.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 25 points 3 days ago

The DNC is working for their rich donors and doing a pretty decent job for them. They shouldn't act so surprised that people who aren't benefiting from the economy don't come out to support them.

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[–] vordalack@lemm.ee 39 points 2 days ago

Let voters get what they deserve.

Republican voters are the biggest simps for big business that I’ve ever seen. It’s like if slaves in America cheered on the confederacy during the Civil War.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 118 points 3 days ago (14 children)

The issue with politics is that you don't just have to address a problem, you also need to publicize what you did.

Maybe the dems did effectively address some problems, but they did a poor PR jobs out of it.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 98 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Outrageous lies are what make the news.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, somehow trump doesn’t have a credibility problem despite being a pathological liar and I don’t think it was possible for the democrats to effectively counter that when he’s not being held accountable. We need live fact checking in debates and he needs to be publicly called out every time he lies, but then he just won’t agree to the debate and will go hold a town hall on Fox News.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 93 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Honestly Democrat are absolutely horrible at talking to people.

I'll be the first to admit, Biden did actually do a lot for workers but just like the leader of the painters union said, y'all fucking suck at telling people that.

I mean look at the rail workers strike, Biden stopped the rail workers strike and didn't address one of the biggest things they were looking for, just to be treated like humans and have sick leave.

There was lots of talk about "doing this for the best of the nation", which okay I could get behind, sure they got a wage increase but I did as shit could understand why rank and file would feel betrayed when they were asking additional to be treated as humans that get sick.

What I didn't hear him or anyone say to them directly, that he was still going to work with the unions afterwards to get sick leave in. Why would you not say that at the same time as you announce your blocking the strike? Cost you nothing to say you have their back.

So then months later, with Biden administration support finally got the workers PTO but no one really knew about it because the moment was gone and honestly union leadership also did a shit job of getting that word out too.

It's not the only thing but it certainly is a big factor in things.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 48 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Biden and the Dems saved the teamsters' pensions against the GOP's best efforts and it didn't even earn them an endorsement from the teamsters' union.

This was highly publicized, especially if you yourself were in the union

Internal polling of Teamsters members showed:

In an electronic poll conducted after the Republican National Convention, 59.6% of rank-and-file Teamsters favored endorsing Trump, while 34% supported Harris.
A more recent poll indicated a similar trend, with Teamsters backing Trump 58% to 31%

Having the backs of labor and the working class amounted for jack shit in actual results for dems.

You know why? Because these teamsters spend two hours a day sitting in a car listening to right-wing radio jockeys telling them how Democrats are only interested in policing their language and getting them in trouble for flirting with women.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago

We need more political literacy in this country.

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago

Voters are pretty stupid. Seriously, the misinformation and willful ignorance on display is breathtaking.

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