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  1. I am not saying you shouldn't shame people for their voting choice as a demonstration of lack of critical thought or moral compass. You should.
  2. I am not saying that all the political parties are equally guilty. I am obviously talking about Trump as the much greater evil of the available evils.
  3. I am not saying that votes never count or have impact. They sometimes do.

All I really want to say is that blaming your friends and family for the election outcome is misguided and probably serves to benefit the political machine in its current form more than it serves to affect voter choice.

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[–] mjsaber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. Fuck my hate filled, transphobic parents and Kool aid drinking ultra conservative siblings. They knew exactly who they were voting for, and they can get fucked.

[–] anus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

See point 1

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is a truly awful take even though I think your heart is in the right place.

If someone voted for Trump, they likely spoke highly of Trump which emboldened others to vote for him. It's insane to imply they are blameless when they participated in and promoted a culture that props Trump up as a good guy.

[–] anus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I actually do not think that's a fair assumption. In my experience conservative voters are significantly less likely to talk about their beliefs and choices

In fact I would argue that across the political spectrum, there's a loud minority

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

Every vote for Trump normalizes his behavior. It's as simple as that. A clueless voter see 60 million people voting for him and thinks hey, he must not be so bad!

[–] kurushimi@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

It’s very difficult to reconcile situations such as mine where all but two in my immediate family are reliable red voters whose candidates want to remove rights from myself and my friends who are mostly some form of queer.