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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22077561

“I’m not interested in anyone who is moving further away from the center,” said Cindy Bass, a Pennsylvania committee member from Philadelphia. “The center is where we have to be.”

They're not going to change a thing unless people make them.

Find your local state delegate and personally tell them how you feel a centrist is only going to guarantee another Republican victory. They are listed here: https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_National_Committee

Bernie Sanders is working behind the scenes to get a progressive in there but he can't do it alone.

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[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 13 points 1 hour ago

So, to solve the problem of the left not voting them, they are moving further to the right.

Yeah, America, I'm sorry to tell you but you are screwed. You have 4 years to either behead the dnc and turn it into a left wing party, or greate an actual left party.

Otherwise, you're going to be eating fascism fo dinner until you implode.

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

I really wish they would put out a survey for voters. Some way to collect data about what people actually want. Like a huge survey, let every registered dem fill it out.

If they're talking about running some bland business-as-usual candidate then that'll lose. People want change.

Based on their track record I have no faith in progress.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Remember when they picked Tom Perez, the croaking geezer, over Kieth Ellison. Your voice won't be heard because that's not who they're listening for.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 minutes ago
[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

If we don't have a state delegate should we just pick the closest state?

[–] SonicDeathTaco@lemm.ee 27 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I love how they think the best way forward is to become the embodiment of the election strategy that just failed so spectacularly for Harris. Brilliant.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Then make sure to tell the people actually voting for the chair to give the pushback they need to see that's a mistake. Change is only going to come when we speak up

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 38 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

Centrist Democrats are revolting.

As they begin to dissect their collapse in the presidential election, some Democratic National Committee members are concluding that the party is too “woke,” too focused on identity politics and too out of touch with broad stretches of America.

[…]

Or as one DNC member from Florida put it: “I don’t want to be the freak show party, like they have branded us. You know, when you’re a mom with three kids, and you live in middle America and you’re just not really into politics, and you see these ads that scare the bejesus out of you, you’re like, ‘I know Trump’s weird or whatever, but I would rather his weirdness that doesn’t affect my kids.’”

Aka the libs want to turn on trans people.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Point me to a moment during the last campaign that Kamala promoted identity politics. The very most important thing we should do is to nit listen to pundits.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago

Point me to a moment during the last campaign that Kamala promoted identity politics.

They can't. But the alternative is admitting that moving to the right has failed, and centrists will never do that.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Middle America is about 20y behind the rest of us, this is the 90s gay marriage situation all over again. If the DNC actually wants to win elections they need to stop putting narrow identity groups front and center and run on their track record of positive economic policy for everyone or they're going to lose every election for the next 20y (barring those won by voter backlash over catastrophic Republican admin fuck-ups.)

The DNC went too far down the identity politics rabbit hole and hasn't quite realized that people in the identity demographics they want to Jenga together into 270 EC votes are willing to vote for the other side because they're not happy with the DNC's corporate profit economy.

The critical flaw in the DNC's 20y old identity politics strategy is the assumption that these identity groups are monolithic. It's a prejudiced as hell position to take that "these are the interests of all women" or "these are the interests of all black people" and yet that's what the DNC has tried to do for the last three elections running. It should be painfully obvious at this point that this doesn't work: women, PoC and Muslims voted for Trump in droves despite the front and center spending to bring them on side this election. Everyone's tired of performative pandering and wants real economic and policy reform to help recover some of what was lost during the last couple of economic crashes and to inflation.

The meme is already stale but JFC they've learned nothing from the last two election losses - the Harris campaign was the 2016 Clinton campaign minus the fundraising dinners on Wall St.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's ridiculous that these things even need to be pointed out. The DNC is packed full of highly educated high income people who have no fucking idea what the average person's life is like and it shows in their priorities.

They need to drop their focus on identity pandering and neoliberal corporate blood sucking if they want any hope in hell of an EC win. All slick consultants in the world won't convince middle America to vote for more business as usual.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 43 minutes ago

Middle America is about 20y behind the rest of us, this is the 90s gay marriage situation all over again. If the DNC actually wants to win elections they need to stop putting narrow identity groups front and center

The RNC did that. Democratic candidates, in their trademark panicked cowardice, parroted right wing bigotry about boys in girls' sports in their own campaign ads.

Most of the time, when Democrats mentioned trans people at all, they were making sure to let everyone know that they didn't have their backs. Add that to breaking solidarity with Muslim voters, and you have a party that broadcasted that it was eager to throw vulnerable populations under the bus.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

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Surely no one here that y'all branded as tankies told you so.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 15 points 4 hours ago

Tankies will turn around and tell you Russia and China are something positive.

Best not to listen to broken clocks.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

So uh, why is there an NY representative in the CA seat again? So much for local representation I guess.

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Please spread, cross post, share, whatever; wherever you can. People should have input into the democratic policy platform, but they're so brazen as to say the "center is where we need to be".

These people, these few hundred people, are a big problem with the democratic party.

We need to take the narrative back from centrists. It can be done by telling the DNC what to do, not the other way around.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Does the article tell us how to cast a vote? I skimmed it and couldn’t find a link to where I could at least send an email.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not voted on directly, you are going to want to talk to your state's party chair to try to convince them vote on the type of chair like you would a congress person on a vote for something. In the body of the post, you can find how to find your state's party chair

Here's the table copied over:

State Chair | State Chair
Alabama Randy Kelley | Montana Robyn Driscoll
Alaska Mike Wenstrup | Nebraska Jane Kleeb
American Samoa Patrick Ti'a Reid[15] | Nevada Daniele Monroe-Moreno
Arizona Yolanda Bejarano | New Hampshire Raymond Buckley
Arkansas Grant Tennille | New Jersey LeRoy J. Jones, Jr.
California Rusty Hicks | New Mexico Jessica Velasquez
Colorado Shad Murib | New York Jay Jacobs
Connecticut Nancy DiNardo | North Carolina Anderson Clayton
Delaware Elizabeth D. Maron | North Dakota Adam Goldwyn
District of Columbia Charles Wilson | Ohio Liz Walters
Florida Nikki Fried | Oklahoma Alicia Andrews
Georgia Nikema Williams | Oregon Rosa Colquitt
Guam Anthony Babauta[16] | Pennsylvania Sharif Street
Hawaii Derek Turbin | Puerto Rico Charles Rodriguez
Idaho Lauren Necochea[17] | Rhode Island Liz Beretta-Perik
Illinois Elizabeth Hernandez | South Carolina Christale Spain
Indiana Mike Schmuhl | South Dakota Shane Merrill
Iowa Rita Hart | Tennessee Hendrell Remus
Kansas Jeanna Repass | Texas Gilberto Hinojosa
Kentucky Colmon Elridge | U.S. Virgin Islands Carol M. Burke[18]
Louisiana Randal Gaines | Utah Diane Lewis
Maine Bev Uhlenhake | Vermont David Glidden
Maryland Ken Ulman | Virginia Susan Swecker
Massachusetts Steve Kerrigan | Washington Shasti Conrad
Michigan Lavora Barnes | West Virginia Mike Pushkin
Minnesota Ken Martin | Wisconsin Ben Wikler
Mississippi Cheikh Taylor | Wyoming Joe Barbuto
Missouri Russ Carnahan | Democrats Abroad Martha McDevitt-Pugh
[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

Can't find a way to contact CA guy, only a way to give him $

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

chair@cadem.org or also rusty@cadem.org seemed to be listed on various California Democratic Party documents for him


If anyone else is having any issues finding the contact emails, reply to me with a state and I can try to help you find it!

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

It's not like that boat will be tallied or even looked at, If you don't have millions of bucks to give them, you don't have a voice in government.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

That's funny that you believe that your voice will be heard if you're not amongst the donor class. They only answered the money, something none of us have.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The DNC can lick and tease my disgusting Perinium.

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

That's not a constructive approach. Doing nothing just means Republicans completely disasemble what remains of democracy in the US.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

We need a new party that isn’t the Green Party. The Progressive party. Anyone left of center.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 1 points 2 minutes ago

If you do that, you will just split the vote, giving Republicans another win. I'm not sure if your democracy will survive thus term, but another... forget it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

Why not just orchestrate a takeover of the Green Party? Then extract concessions from Democrats in exchange for not running.

Of course, this would mean that Democrats care about winning instead of donations.