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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

what a pathetic world we live in. willingly letting people die because of an ideological belief.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not even real ideology, the people putting this shit front and center are doing so purely to manipulate voters and give absolutely zero fucks about the actual morality of any of these policies. As should be obvious by the adulterers, rapists, crooks, liars, and bigots that tout "Christian values" in everything other than their personal choices.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Pretty much any of those people would just pay to have their mistress get an abortion in another state or from an underground doctor for the elite. They don't want to pay child support.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so for what reason do you think we should let people die??

/s

[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Refusing to reduce their risk by getting a safe and effective vaccine.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I get your frustration, but part of the reason I get my vaccines is to even keep those morons a little safer. It's the same reason I work in and support public education even though I don't have kids: some of those diseased little shitheads are gonna someday make decisions that could kill others who were just trying their best.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

BTW yours is the best username I think I've ever seen. On any socials, ever. LOL

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Lol, thanks! What can I say? I take pictures and I fart. What inspired yours?

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was a....... capital idea......

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Huh... I'm gonna fight you now for making me chuckle at that

[–] recently_Coco@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I'm waiting for the first wave of medical professionals who stand up and say "no" to harmful laws. It needs to happen. we need people to refuse unjust law without the lawsuit song and dance. Simply say NO! and help people anyways.

[–] Ab_intra@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

While I agree with the sentiment these doctors would risk going to jail and ruin their life and also possibly their license. I totally agree that would be great to see them do it but I'm afraid that's not how the world works. Maybe a very few of them will do so. This whole situation is fucked up and you can thank the republicans for taking the US back 50 years.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 22 points 7 months ago

You're not going to get people to do that without some sort of protection for them and their families. If you're a Dr. that can save hundreds, or be locked up because you saved 1 person, it's a tough case for being the fall person.

Now if they could get a union walkout nationwide (or at least statewide), then they have leverage.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

They're not going to do that when the penalties are so severe, no one is going to risk their freedom for this. They are however doing something about it: leaving the state.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-abortion-ob-gyn-doctor-training-60-minutes/

And I don't blame them one bit with Republicans' draconian, theocratic bullshit and unfortunately the impact Texans will get.

[–] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In addition to what everyone else has said so far, even if some doctors are doing this, they are probably keeping quiet about it. You and I outside of Texas will never know if anyone is violating this law until someone sues. My guess is that 3 deaths in 2 years is either vastly under reported, or there are doctors who are toeing the line of this law more closely than others.

[–] Dupree878@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

We really don’t know how many have died because Georgia and Texas did away with the mortality boards because of bad PR

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/health/georgia-maternal-mortality-committee-propublica/index.html

[–] Dupree878@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

They will arrest the doctors though, or kill them when an acorn falls near a jackboot

Hate to burst your bubble but plenty of doctors are out there that still believe this shit. I hate that I've seen it first hand, but they exist and they are far greater in number than you would like to know.

[–] Dupree878@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She was black though so its actually a win in the eyes of MAGA voters

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Probably, there's a lot of Nazis in MAGA after all. However, they still don't give two shits when it's a white woman either, at least until it affects them personally.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/01/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala/

Fails and Crain believed abortion was morally wrong. The teen could only support it in the context of rape or life-threatening illness, she used to tell her mother. They didn’t care whether the government banned it, just how their Christian faith guided their own actions.

...

But when her daughter got sick, Fails expected that doctors had an obligation to do everything in their power to stave off a potentially deadly emergency, even if that meant losing Lillian. In her view, they were more concerned with checking the fetal heartbeat than attending to Crain.

This very much so is the most tragic of leopards eating faces.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How can someone even think of something like this law? The results are just sad. This ban needs to be tossed.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Considering who we just voted into office, it's more likely these bans will spread nationwide. To say nothing of banning birth control and plan-b.

This is going to get so much worse.

I'm not an american, so I can only really watch you from afar. But I seriously hope that it doesn't come to that for the US.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They think fetuses are people. That's pretty much the extent of the thought they've invested in the matter. They don't give a shit about the mother's right to safety and body autonomy.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I honestly have to ask, is that the serious reasoning behind something like this? Cause it's lacking very much.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 7 months ago

That's the only argument I've ever been able to get out of pro-life people. Literally all they have is "what about the rights of the fetus?" sometimes with an added touch of "women's uterus are meant to carry babies". Last week I had a long thread going with one of them. I'd direct you to it but a mod deleted all their comments.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So at what point do you mortgage the house to get a helicopter and fly them out of state?

[–] Dupree878@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In Texas the pilot and whomever paid for it would be guilty of a crime

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And probably turned in by their neighbor for the cash bounty.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Keep em dumb and poor and desperate fighting for the same sliver

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Gilead is wonderful, isn't it?

/s

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I kept on getting magasplained by a particular set of idiots about how there was no such thing as Gilead states in America, though? What happened? Almost this exact same set of idiots kept telling me that liberals were "overreacting" about Roe and women's rights, prior to 2022.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Can't they just pull their Texan guns on doctors like they did over abortions? For my partner's life?

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I read earlier that she was the fifth. Unless I am misremembering. Does anybody know?

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

It's likely more than 3 but it can be hard to link some deaths to the law.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

Parent murderers