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Finally migrated from Windows to Linux. For anyone wondering, what is the state of Linux as your primary OS for home PC\laptop in 2023.

I've finalised my Archlinux installation yesterday, I dropped of Linux more than 10 years ago and experience in 2023 in comparison is awesome and beyond even wildest dreams back then:

  • For average user looking for more out of the box experience I would suggest something Arch based (people in comments suggest EndeavourOS, please do your research). Archlinux installation took me quite some time
  • Almost everything works out of the box, by just installing corresponding package
  • KDE Plasma environment is fast and beautiful
  • Pipewire audio server (Jack\Pulseaudio replacement) works great
  • Wayland window server is not there yet, especially if you have Nvidia with proprietary drivers and want to use VR. Waking up, session restoration and other scenarios have issues. Use X11.
  • Wine is great!
  • Music making - Bitwig Studio DAW has linux native version, yabridge allow you to use windows VSTs, which are easily installed via wine
  • Gaming works out of the box with Steam for majority of titles, some games have native linux version. Performance is great. In worst case windows game might loose 5-15% in performance. Was not case for my titles
  • Gaming outside steam is fine too. Use Wine, Lutris, Proton
  • VR is a mixed bag. Not everything is there (Desktop view, sound control and mirroring, camera, motions smooth, lighthouses do not wake up os go to sleep. I use my phone to turn them on/off). But if its not the problem for you, quite some titles work. Tried: native HF Alyx, Lab, windows: Beat Saber and Boneworks. For me it's a surprise, I did not count on it. Performance is great.

So overall my experience is great. Eventually I'm going to get rid of WIndows on other computers and laptops at howe. I can finally wave goodbye to Windows, with lots of ads and bloatware. Alway glad to help with answers regarding installation while my memory and history logs are fresh. ^^

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[–] cheerjoy@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Nice writeup. Seconding not using Manjaro. If you want something Arch based, try EndeavourOS instead.

[–] Oikio@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Two votes for EndeavourOS, updated post.

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plus one here for EndeavourOS.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Friends don't let friends run Manjaro. Endeavour is a great place to start.

[–] Potajito@feddit.ch 6 points 2 years ago

Endeavour is great. Running that too. I sometimes think of distro hopping (nobara, cachyos?) but endeavour just checks all the boxes for me.

[–] antihumanitarian@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I use Arch for my daily, and I would highly recommend against it for new users. 99% of the time it's just fine. 1% of the time some edge case sneaks by and you update before a fix is pushed. In those cases, I've had installations be deeply broken, far beyond my expectations of normal users.

For actual recommendations, something Debian based for sure. Vanilla Debian, Mint, or Mint Debian edition. If you wanna live on the edge, Sid is rolling but in my experience was more stable than Arch.

[–] krimson@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I fired up Steam last night and was surprised how many games in my library just work, including AAA titles. Amazing.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I bought a hybrid AMD/Nvidia laptop in 2021, installed Arch, the Nvidia dkms driver and flatpak steam and everything I wanted to play just worked. Getting gaming up and running is so much easier now thanks to valve's work on proton.

Same experience on two more machines after.

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

arch linux is not what i'd recommend for new users. great distro, love pacman, but ubuntu will get you there just as fast and with less headaches. manjaro is an option if you're adamant about arch.

haven't had good luck w/ VR with valve index, still a lot of pain points.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seriously. Op chose hard mode on their first try.

[–] Oikio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It wasn't my first try, I used arch before. And I would not recommend it to anyone without prior experience or at least software engineering related background.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

I'd recommend straight arch over manjaro every time. There are better arch derivatives.

[–] sasquash471@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Embarrassing, but I never knew that you actually have to activate proton in the steam settings in order to install games which natively don't support Linux. This kept me from switching completely.

Now I use Fedora with KDE and can also run MS games like AoE without any problem. Even the performance is often a lot better for example in BG3.

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

To clarify: native Linux support means the game ships with Linux binaries. For non-native games (Windows only) you use Proton. (For some games the Windows version with Proton actually works better than the Linux native version)

The setting you are referring to enables Proton for all games, instead of the selection of games that have a predefined Proton version which has been tested by Valve.

[–] Jayemecee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you have a secondary monitor? How do you handle sleep? Using laptop? How do you close your lid and get everything to hibernate/sleep? Those are my biggest gripes right now

[–] Oikio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Two monitors do work (second display is my tv), I tried it couple of times - just worked,but maybe I need to retest.

Currently I have stationary pc. But ten years ago closing lid worked for me on laptop. I think arch wiki has good guidance about this topic. It was not a plug and play experience for sure.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To add some useful information. Forget about VR if you have a Radeon RX card, because a 1 year old bug still unsolved.

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/7041

[–] CarlosCheddar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have an RX 6800 XT and use SteamVR on Linux just fine. I wonder why I’ve never encountered that error.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It says that downgrading a lib resolves that issue, maybe that's why it's had less priority?

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The problem solves reverting a commit and building Mesa with that change. If I do that I will have to rebuild Mesa everytime I want to update. That doesn't sound like a solution for me.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

If I do that I will have to rebuild Mesa everytime I want to update.

Mesa is a pretty quick compile on a recent system, but if you're doing that manually I get that would be annoying.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good notes, but man this could really use bullet points.

[–] Oikio@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Which app are you on? I've used standard markdown list markup, like:

  • One
  • Two
  • Three
[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Using boost here, the dots are visible

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Sync for Lemmy app. As another said it looks like a bug. Sorry about that.

Your comment here too doesn't show as a list until I start composing a reply. Then it looks fine.

[–] fiestorra@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can see the dashes used for bullet points but it shows as having no line breaks in between, so it's all a text blob.

Like - one - two - three -four

[–] Oikio@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks like there is a markdown parsing issue on the client you are using. At least from what I can see.

[–] fiestorra@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

I'm using Sync, I think I'll make a bug report yeah

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I can see the dots on Connect.

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Love the mixup Linux 10 😂

[–] Oikio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm prone to typos and rewriting posts before publishing. Will fix it)

[–] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago

Great to hear! Keep us updated with your journey

Arch is a no, no for beginners and Wayland is already really good and getting better and better, on nvidia aswell

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Great to hear, but I'd recommend against manjaro. While it appears to just be arch with an installer and some more preset, it has its own repos that are behind the arch repos. This causes a huge amount of issues that normal arch doesn't have.

While I haven't tried garuda yet and installed arch on my own, it seems like it actually does what people think manjaro does: Make arch easy and keep the benefits.

[–] neomis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

New to Linux and chose arch? I know it’s got issues but isn’t Ubuntu still the stupid easy way to run Linux. Steam out of the box, no driver issues.

[–] Oikio@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For me Arch was a way to go, because as I used it before - ~10 years ago. And it's philosophy is appealing to me.

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd prefer plain Arch over Arch-based since the latter will exclude you from receiving any support from Arch forums.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

EndeavourOS has a large community, you'll find plenty of help there while having an easier install and first time setup.