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[–] Domiku@beehaw.org 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love Game Pass, but I don't like monopolies. I wish regulators had blocked this. Also: https://www.theonion.com/just-six-corporations-remain-1819564741

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was laughing at the onion article and stopped- was that really published in 1998 ?!?!? Or is the date also a joke?

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It reads like it's from 98. The references to Blockbuster, Daimler-Chrysler, McDonnell Douglas, and Bill Clinton tipped me off this was an old one.

[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wikipedia says that The Onion has had a website since '96, so it's definitely possible! (Also, TIL The Onion has existed since 1988.)

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I knew the onion is old, but didn't imagine they would keep a website with old articles still up!

[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

Why not? It costs nothing, appart from transforming the old format into something the current site can work with, or more likely, have the old site support tbe old format.

[–] Phroon@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

It really is that old. According to their Supreme Court amicus brief: “Rising from its humble beginnings as a print newspaper in 1756, The Onion now enjoys a daily readership of 4.3 trillion and has grown into the single most powerful and influential organization in human history.” Seriously though, read that brief. It’s a masterful piece of satire.

[–] thehellrocc@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The wayback machine has it archived as early as December 2017, no idea beyond that.

[–] Goronmon@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

It's hard to block mergers based on a company involved being a monopoly if none of the companies involved are monopolies or will become monopolies.

Regulators have to come up with a different set of rules to block "large but not monopolistic mergers" without also just effectively protecting the actual leader in a given industry from competition.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

How have I never read that? That's amazing.

[–] Platform27@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That applies to open software standards, what does it have to do with buying cash cows?

[–] Goronmon@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That applies to open software standards, what does it have to do with buying cash cows?

It has no real meaning anymore. It's now a phrase people throw around as effectively a meme. You won't get anything but a wrong answer to this question.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

It does seem like some people just automatically post it on every thread that mentions Microsoft. Just because we all dislike something doesn't mean we want to see the same low-effort comments spammed every time they come up in discussion like we're still on Reddit!

[–] Platform27@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It applies to most business.

  1. You give a positive face to the market you’re in (Game Pass, Phil Spencer, pro-dev vibe, etc).
  2. You buy chunks of the market (Activ-Bliz-King is a massive chunk), while saying it’s good for the industry.
  3. You squeeze the company of its IP, while bleeding the market dry of money. All of which kills, or at least hurts that market.

Right now, Micro$oft is in the Extend phase.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

If you bring up Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, especially since we're talking about Microsoft, that is not what it means, and your definition has issues, because if you're buying a big company for a lot of money, the last thing you want to do is extinguish it.

[–] Goronmon@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

That's not what "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" means. You just came up with three numbered items to correspond to the fact that there are three words in the phrase.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doesn't even apply to software standards lol. It's a dumb "playbook" probably made by some coked out Microsoft middle manager in the 00s that wasn't even widely successfully used. Lemmy's crappy example of it is Google "killing" an extensible messaging protocol, which is nonsense because they didn't kill anything (you don't "kill" a protocol), they extended it into a proprietary version. You know, because it's extensible.

The only relevance "embrace, extend, extinguish" has in today's society is as an excuse to spread FUD and ragebait on Lemmy.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] lukas@lemmy.haigner.me 4 points 1 year ago

Nice Doctor Who reference

[–] Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

YOU ARE AN ENEMY OF MICROSOFT; YOU MUST BE DESTROYED

[–] Venomnik0@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, embrace, extend and extinguish my breast milk drinking.

[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Especially Bobby and all the ones he enabled

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly this is bad for the gaming industry.

I understand a lot of game pass subscribers want more free stuff.

But just look at what Netflix had became after its success.

Or even just look at MS’s track record in using their monopolies to bully competitors.

Years later we will look at this and watch the tragedy unfold.

Pretty sure most of the abk staff were just keen to get rid of Bobby. Maybe shortsighted but hey, MS isn't the worst company to work for.

[–] totallynotfbi@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a shame the UK's Competitive Markets Authority let this merger go through after all. I can't wait for the future, when 90% of the most popular games are made by 3 companies

the government was desperate for a post brexit trade deal

[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now gut the boys club C Suite from ABK and help the thousands of employees.

[–] Scooter411@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kotick is out in January at the very least. I think there is a 60 day waiting period before employees can begin unionizing, as part of the deal.

That's the hope..

[–] muse@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bring back Heroes of the Storm and add Master Chief in damnit

Wait, they axed hots?

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They showed Alex Mercer from Prototype in their announcement video

They knew

[–] brunofin@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's quite interesting, leaving aside all the monopoly arguments, I think this has potential to being very beneficial to all blizzard games, and so to us.

[–] Piers@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It looks like Kotick will be leaving after the transition so that's a great start. My dream is that this all somehow leads to the full Overwatch PvE campaign coming back onto the table again (given that their attempts to provide long-term replay ability without doing the work seem to be floundering now, there's a chance right?)

[–] TheresNodiee@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

It'll definitely be interesting to see how MS treats Blizz's ongoing IPs. There's definitely opportunity to improve things there with Diablo 4 not keeping people's attention and OW2... being OW2.

[–] potato@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be funny if they renamed Toys for Bob to Toys for Phil.

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Who, the rapper?

[–] Sivick314@universeodon.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently at the end of the year. Obviously going to get a good payout in the process..

[–] Sivick314@universeodon.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Hdcase@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

400 million payout as I understand it. And odds are very good he's going to go to some other video game company. People like him don't just disappear.

Apparently shitty CEOs make amazing bacon..

[–] TheresNodiee@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

I saw someone mention somewhere that Unity has an open CEO position...