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“[For] people who live in the country or in remote areas or minority groups or [who have] small businesses, that is a really good way for them to communicate and reach other people,” she says.

“It’s just not possible to set up an alternative at this point in time. So, to put it bluntly, we’re in a bit of deep shit, to be honest.”

No mention of Pixelfed, but I can understand why. Will it only be seen as an alternative once a critical mass of users move there? And can that happen if they don't see it as an alternative? Chicken and egg. I'm trying out, but it's a little vapid when everyone I know is on Instagram.

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[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 131 points 6 days ago (15 children)

.... just don't use instagram?

I never have, and I don't feel like I'm missing out

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 94 points 6 days ago (28 children)

I asked a younger coworker something similar about Facebook and facebook messenger a few years ago in relation to cyber bullying. I asked her why the younger generation doesn’t just get off social media if they’re being bullied, and her response was that these platforms are how people communicate now. Without them, you don’t find out about parties, trips, events, etc. Without them you get left out. If you abandon them, you’re essentially ostracizing yourself.

After hearing that I understood why just giving them up is difficult.

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago

It's not just younger people. A lot of my fellow GenXers only communicate via Facebook messenger.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's why nobody left Whatsapp when Meta bought it.

[–] Clanket@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

As soon as they're forced to allow interoperability with other apps, I'll be deleting WhatsApp. Had a Facebook from the beginning but deleted it when the Cambridge Analytica scandal happened. Have never had an Instagram. Fuck Meta and its horrible owner.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i hate it, but we are gonna be slow boiled into having meta read everything we say over there if we aint already

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 3 points 4 days ago

The thing is that Whatsapp was a godsend in Europe because we used to communicate through SMS's and we used to pay for them, where is WhatsApp requires a single yearly payment.

Some tech illiterate people didn't even know how to download apps but WhatsApp came pre installed on their phones so they used it

[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can confirm. I'm a bit older, but when I stopped using social media it was like my aquaintances forgot I existed. Sure, close friends would usually still invite me to social events, but even that tapered off after a while. When I'd call someone out for not inviting me, their response was always "but you never shiw up to anything". It's not like they don't know that I'm not on Facebook. What, you think that when you don't invite me that I'll just magically know it's happening? I'm finally getting some people to use Signal groups but that has been an uphill battle.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

I’ll just magically know it’s happening?

You're not alone in not being on Facebook. Most of the younger generations aren't on their either. I wish we had some form of P2P social network that just carried events, group chat and status updates and could just hoover everyone into it.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I agree up to the point that someone could use Facebook for the parties and stuff, and then not use any of the main page stuff. I have Messenger because that's the prime option for those I know, but I don't use it for anything but messaging and don't have a Facebook.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

I’ve had a facebook account since it was first unleashed on the world, but these days I only use it for messenger and marketplace. I’ve changed all my privacy settings to as strict as they can possibly be, and I never browse or post anything.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 6 days ago

Without them, you don’t find out about parties, trips, events, etc.

Ding ding

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[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For a while, it was full of pictures. Only pictures. That "lunch" thing was trendy but not at all the main content. Whatever you wanted, it was there. It was no different than any other platform. Some great content, some bullshit. Now it's shitty "reels", ads, and fraud. You'd have to sift through a lot of forced garbage to find your subscribed content.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the fact that people are so obsessed with social media that they cant even realize the simple option of just stopping all together really says how toxic and addictive social media is.

Yup, not everything needs to be replaced like for like. Some options:

  • spend time on a hobby (video games, exercise, etc)
  • in person relationships
  • learn something new

Tons of options.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just.... Don't use it. It's easy. I don't even know what Instagram actually is.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's Tumblr with most of the features removed.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You could just not share every little scrap of your mundane lives in its full photographic glory?

We really don't need to see another picture of a coffee with a little swirl on top, next to a mass produced bun.

[–] prof_wafflez@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You could just not share every little scrap of your mundane lives

We agree on that and I find people who do that really annoying -often muting them-, but that's not really how I use Instagram for myself. I use Instagram to post vacation photos or to share some unusual life news, maybe four or five times a year and that's about it with posting. I just checked and I posted 3 times in 2024 and 9 in 2023, all vacations, death of a pet or moving news - All worthy of sharing with friends, imo. Otherwise, my main use case for Insta is to track things locally, like restaurants, bars, clubs, shows, events, etc. Unfortunately there's not a better alternative for that sort of use case in another app right now. It's a bummer because I would love to move off of social media and use an alternative, but local stuff can't be accessed by things like RSS feeds and lots of businesses don't really do newsletters anymore - or in some cases don't even bother with websites.

There are a lot of people circlejerking in this thread about not using social media and patting themselves on the back, but people who like to go outside their house and who want and actually try to keep in touch with friends can find it pretty useful. Also, Lemmy and forums are practically social media - so stop being so hypocritical with your reality warped dissonance. I see too much of that already on Instagram and reddit.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago

That sounds like what Facebook was for before they filled it with nonsense, scams and racism.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 22 points 6 days ago

Pixelfed is a federated image-sharing network.

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago
[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“what’s your alternative?” the answer is always lemmy am i right guys 😎

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 5 days ago

Always has been

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"But all the other lemmings are there! I can't leave or I'll be left at the top of the cliff by myself!" 🙄 Guess what, there's more of us up here who aren't jumping than you realize.

Sorry to be harsh, but that's how I feel about it when people say they have no choice but to enrich these social media oligarchs by participating in their exploitation machines. By contributing their "content" to be collected, sold, used for training their generative AIs, by viewing their ads, and by making themselves targets to be manipulated by propaganda of all kinds.

They already exploit us enough in ways we can't control, without us willingly participating in their schemes.

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[–] randombullet@programming.dev 21 points 6 days ago
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They don‘t talk back. Too busy browsing their phone.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

Will it only be seen as an alternative once a critical mass of users move there?

I mean, yeah? That's how social media works.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Facebook/meta should never have been allowed to buy Instagram.

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Instagram is like 15 different things at once.

Its a messaging service with a TikTok like video service and a pixelfed like photo sharing service.

[–] Peter1986C@lemmings.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Guardian cannot spell "Mastodon", it seems from this "article".

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago

It is nicknamed The Grauniad for a reason.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 days ago

Flickr, Tumblr and Hipstamatic

What virtue signal. These don't have fact-checking either lmao

[–] phillycodehound@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I love Pixelfed and the federated versions of it.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Yoooooo! Pixelfed is my jam!

I have serious followers. 5 of them!

https://pxlmo.com/jakelec

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)
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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

For artists and art appreciators Cara is a pretty good replacement for IG.

[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I use Instagram only to follow my friends, does pixelfed have private accounts ?

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 14 points 6 days ago

Yes it does! Check out pixelfed! It's a lovely supportive community, in my experience.

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