the most furious debate of all time will be whether the United States is owned by the AIPAC, or the Russian Mafia.
if they aren't in one pocket, its the other
this post was submitted on 09 Jan 2025
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AIPAC has every politician kissing the ring at their conference. It is not even a contest.
If Russia had the same level of influence as Israel, America would be invading Ukraine with Putin.
Here's the list of voters that you can narrow down. It's appalling. AIPAC, the pro-~~isreal~~Genocide lobby, has been pushing this, in order to shield their terrorist leader netenyahoo from punishment. The bill would not just sanction the International Criminal Court, but it's members. They are actively trying to punish individuals across the globe, for condemning isreals genocide, using the American peoples congress as their cudgel.
Meanwhile isreal has blocked or impeded every single humanitarian aid shipment to Gaza since October.
This is what Democrats call bipartisanship.
When will US truly have a centre left party atleast?
Or centre right, Biden was the closest they’ve been to centre right so they replaced him with a candidate further right
(Yes you can point out random other centre right members but they haven’t had power in the party)
Considering we have a far right and a controlled opposition party, never.
Probably after we switch from a First-past-the-post voting system to something more representative.
Then people could vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect.
We can make these changes at the state level. Alaska recently voted to keep using Ranked Choice voting. Conservatives were mad because Ranked Choice voting allowed alaskans to choose a more moderate conservative over Sarah Palin and pushed to have a referendum to go back to FPTP voting.
So why do Blue states use FPTP voting when it's clear republicans prefer it?
When people on the left stop just circle-jerking on the Internet and actually get involved in their state and local Democratic parties, vote in the primaries and run for office.
volunteers to run for office
gets told by Dems that they're not rich enough
You too huh?
“Republicans want to sanction the ICC simply because they don’t want the rules to apply to everyone,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Massachusetts) on the House floor on Thursday.
McGovern highlighted that Republicans are moving to erode human rights while ignoring urgent issues within the U.S.
“We have a natural disaster unfolding in California right this second…. We have a gun violence epidemic, as we see massacres in our schools nearly every single day. And families are unable to make ends meet because they’re being ripped off by billionaire corporations,” said McGovern. “All those challenges, and this is what the out of touch elitist billionaire Republican party wants to waste time on. Sanctioning the ICC.”
I liked Jim McGovern already, but I like him more, now.
Yeah, he fucking nailed it.
McNailed it
Also wonder if the fact that he's, uh, governing (?) is some nomnative determinism
75% of Democrats voted against it and 100% of Republicans supported it. The problem in this country is Democrats, because a portion of them side with Republicans sometimes.
Honestly the fact that 75% of Democrats voted against it is actually kinda surprising. In the past close to 100% of both parties were knee-jerk pro-Israel votes. This means there's actually a good chance it won't pass the senate. If people wanna call their senator instead of complaining online, maybe it won't. I'm in DC so I'm allowed to just complain online until you give me my two senators.
Do the 75% of the Democrats call out and throw out the 25%? Like the whole ACAB thing, how are these people allowed to represent the party?
Because their constituents voted for them.
The DNC allowed them into the party.
No, their state Democratic party did. Because they won a primary election.
Democratic primaries being famously neutral and all.
45 democrats need to get fucking primaried.
AIPAC is ready to fund them
Then we lose while making AIPAC spend money that would otherwise have been put towards further entrenching foreign influence.
It's government backed, you can't outspend an industrial nation on volunteer donations across every candidate.
If their candidates are going to win either way, I would rather them have to spend money keeping them in office than use that money for genocide.
Honestly, campaign on that.
“My opponent supports genocide. They’ve received xxx,xxx dollars from AIPAC. They’re being funded by foreign interests because they put those interests before you.”
And to any dem politicians out there thinking about it- AIPAC and Netanyahu fucked Biden. They are not your ally. They are not your friend.
Tried that. Just say that eggs will be cheaper, doesn't matter if it's true.
Yes, but then they'll be accused of anti-Semitism because people don't understand the difference between Israel and Jewish people
They already are, and you are suggesting democrats become feckless cowards.
Learn to hit back. You’ll feel better.
Oh no accusations! Republicans accuse people of all sorts of dumb shit, you really gonna fall for that old trick?
Yes... yes you will.
I worry that's exactly it.
The list copied by hand from https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024242
Sorry for any errors
- Boyle (PA)
- Caraveo (CO)
- Cartwright (PA)
- Craig (MN)
- Cuellar (TX)
- Davis (NC)
- Frankel (FL)
- Gallego (AZ)
- Golden (ME)
- Goldman (NY)
- Gonzalez (TX)
- Gottheimer (NJ)
- Horsford (NV)
- Landsman (OH)
- Lee (NV)
- Levin (CA)
- Manning (NC)
- McBath(GA)
- Meng(NY)
- Moskowitz(FL)
- Nickel (NC)
- Norcross(NJ)
- Pallone(NJ)
- Panetta(CA)
- Pappas (NH)
- Peltola(AK)
- Perez(WA)
- Peters (CA)
- Phillips (MN)
- Ryan (NY)
- Schneider (IL)
- Schrier (WA)
- Scott (GA)
- Slotkin (MI)
- Soto (FL)
- Stanton (AZ)
- Suozzi (NY)
- Thanedar (MI)
- Torres(NY)
- Vargas (CA)
- Veasey (TX)
- Wasserman Schultz (FL)
Not surprised that Dean Phillips (MN) voted for this, but I am mildly surprised Angie Craig (MN) did. Her district is purple tho. Still shitty
of course that rat wasserman schultz voted for it.
People like that make me want to believe in God, just so I'm comforted by their eventual placement in hell.
Fucking evil rats, all of them. Reichstag rodents.
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I can’t be an American. There’s no way my politics are this divorced from the average person and I’m still an American.
You're not a 1%er, the only people our government represents. Culture wars are a distraction
If that were the case then people wouldn’t be continually voting the way they do. This is what we collectively want. It’s not like it’s a dictatorship.
(https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba/)[The bottom 90% of income earners have a statistically zero level of influence on policy.]
It's not you who isn't American, it's the current governing body.
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If we keep acting like anyone with a D by their name is perfect we'll never fix shit.
The hard truth is the party needs to clean house because when shit like this happens "both sides" is hard to deny
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