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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] bravesirrbn@lemmy.world 17 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

CEOs having a "who can suck off Trump best" contest?

[–] rando@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 hour ago

This is how it's feeling like, last few weeks. I'll somehow need to justify keeping my proton plan

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

What Trump really means here is "big tech has run amok they need to kiss my ring first and then they can do whatever the fuck they like". He has identified big tech companies as a key component to cement his future dictatorship and he is not wrong.

[–] nightm4re@feddit.org 1 points 8 minutes ago

For my fellow German readers: An affordable green alternative to Proton hosted in Berlin is Posteo. https://posteo.de/ 1€ / month to have your mail hosted by a non-shitty company is a small price.

[–] rarbg@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.

Not wrong there…

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 18 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, that's true. But going on to say 'therefore support Trump' is ... not good.

I think it's unwise for Proton to try to support any political party. Agreeing or disagreeing with decisions and policies is fair and good; but to say "this is the party who supports the little guy" is a bullshit and unnecessarily divisive.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is unbelievably disappointing. Just canceled my annual membership (which was set to renew in ~2 weeks).

Looks like I'll be moving to Tuta tomorrow.

[–] NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

Okay I'm researching tuta now .. I have a 2 year sub already though. Was literally in the process of moving from Gmail. Self hosted is tough for me. I guess this is the new normal. Milkshake duck....

[–] chandlerbung@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Fuck Proton than.

What's a good alternative I can use?

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 2 points 13 minutes ago

God damnit. I just swotched to Proton this week

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 minutes ago

Riseup and Disroot are run by collectives, Tuta uses a similar business model to Proton, Mailbox.org + Guard looks decent as well and more open than either Proton or Tuta

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 48 minutes ago

Why are there no reports and outrage over the pick of Gail Slater? Doesn't she fit the standard outrage mold? She does seem to be pretty vehemetly anti-big tech. She has driven monopoly cases against VISA, Google and Apple. Surprisingly sober choice as assistant attorney general.

If this is suppose to be "Full MAGA", then i don't understand where you draw lines.

[–] Panda@lemmy.today 19 points 2 hours ago

It seems the guy keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself. Sigh...

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 4 hours ago

By the “little guys” he means himself.

By himself he means corporate CEOs.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I migrated my custom domains to Tuta and canceled my Proton subscription as a result of all of this.

And Proton had fucking better give me a prorated refund.

[–] NewAgeOldPerson@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

I need to do this. I hope I can get my money back but they can choke on it if not I guess.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 29 points 5 hours ago (3 children)
[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 1 points 14 minutes ago

I don't think it's way different. Yeah he's not praising Trump here, but he's certainly not taking a stance against him either, more trying to calm down worried people about Trump being in control now.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I checked archive and it wasn’t saved to the wayback machine so I added it in case proton deletes it. https://web.archive.org/web/20250115163936/https://proton.me/blog/trump-control-nsa-privacy

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 15 points 4 hours ago

That’s a nice one to rub Andy’s nose in. I’ll put that one in my cancellation note.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

Fucking pathetic

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 32 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Wow. And I had just about now completed moving my addresses over, fucking hell

Mullvad then I guess?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 hours ago

One of my favourite things about using an email relay is how easy it was to change email addresses. Unfortunately I was changing to Proton. Fortunately I was using my own domain! Unfortunately I pre-paid 2 years.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Same! And there's not a good email alternative that's as popular

I just switched to purelymail and I am so far pretty happy with it. Plus its way cheaper.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Tuta is decent. I have been using them for a long time every since proton tried gas-lighting everyone about javascript based browser interface being secure for e2ee.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee -1 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Wait... I thought Proton was owned by Valve.

Oh well, anyone know a cheap yet reliable VPN I can switch too?

[–] John@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 minutes ago

Mullvad VPN. The one and only VPN recommandation i give.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

The Proton compatibility layer is a valve thing. Proton Mail/VPN/Pass and so on are from the Proton company.

A bit of an unfortunate name.

[–] coronach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Azire is great, they just dont have port forwarding. For that reason I use airvpn witch is okay too.

[edit] whoa, just noticed they got bought by malwarebytes. There goes that recommendation.

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 53 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?

What a way to alienate your entire customer base

[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 1 points 11 minutes ago

Thankfully privacy is not (yet) a left/right issue. Plenty of rightwingers that also care about privacy and plenty of leftwingers that don't.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What a way to alienate your entire customer base

You really think the entire customer base cares about this?

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 54 minutes ago

You're getting downvoted but I know a handful of privacy minded tech guys who would support Proton even more because of this. I also know quite a few people who share his perspective. And yeah propaganda is definitely in the mix, but maybe just maybe the Democrat party should own some of this themselves.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 23 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Little guys? Like Coca Cola?

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