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tl;dr Don't hate on people who got tricked into buying a Bambu printer. Direct your hatred to Bambu itself.

We all know about the anti-consumer Bambu Printer changes by now. But I think it's important to remember not to make fun of people who already bought one. In fact, most agree with you that these changes are unacceptable. So those people already got kicked in the gut.

As someone who bought from Prusa instead of Bambu, I completely understand the feeling of "Ha, I told you so!" But spreading that on every post is actually counter-productive. Remember that most people who bought a Bambu printer did so because it topped every "best 3D printers" list, had tons of sponsored content, and were affordable easy-to-use printers. Not everybody heard about the potential for such anti-consumer changes to be made. And many who did know were often misled into thinking it wouldn't happen.

Instead of being critical of individuals, be critical of Bambu themselves. Bambu are the ones who screwed over tons of people who love this hobby. If we want to see 3D printing be an open-source style hobby, then we need to help people see the value in that. So if anything, this is the chance for you to make more people aware of good, open systems. If you make fun of people and point fingers at them, you are just making them defensive. Don't make them direct any hatred at you that could be directed at the company itself.

Hope this isn't too preachy. I just wanted to get this out there.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes.

You shit on the individual asshole executives. Not the people who got screwed. Not the company, which has no agency and can do nothing. The individual executives, including the board of directors.

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

Luigi has taught us well.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Pssh. With my amazing, unerring genius foresight, I predicted this years ago. All the dumb, mindless drones should have seen this coming, it was sooo obvious! Plus, I'm a fundamentalist, so neither myself, my friends, nor family use anything but open-source software at home, work, and school.

Seriously, that's how it comes across...

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 5 days ago

Direct the "I told you so"'s at media. That favorite YouTuber? It's their fault. Just watched a couple of them complain as if they weren't the problem in the first place.

It was their job to make sure everyone knew the risks. They are advocates, and highly knowledgeable, and ignored those risks when making recommendations. Or at best, downplayed them. Sad, really.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Alternative thought - don't worry about hating anybody or anything, just print shit and have fun. I don't regret my A1 for one second.

[–] shininghero@pawb.social 5 points 6 days ago

This.
I got super unlucky here, and this news dropped literally the day after I bought an A1.

I'm still going to try and force it into a usable no-internet state, but I don't have high hopes right now.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Doing some research comparing prusa's github and bambu's I realized the firmware was closed sourced and that completely disqualified it from consideration. Also, not being to update without connecting to their servers is a no no. I believe everybody should closely research what they're getting next time they make a purchase. Sorry for all of those who bought Bambus.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

I got gifted one, so I didn't choose it. It's a great printer, but it sucks that Bambu Lab is pulling that shit.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago
[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

Shame bambu enshittified. I was looking at bambu next as I just want a 3d printer that doesnt start putting out pure trash 2 years into its ownership for no reason.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I don’t get it?

How many people bought a Bambu expecting to legally and completely escape their walled garden?

All the “I told you so’s” and general haters can pound sand, their opinion and irrelevant smugness of something that does’t affect them is irritating.

I have 3 printers. One is completely FOSS, the other two not. I bought the two knowing that I was getting in to someone’s closed system and subject to the whims of the rights holder. Know how much Bambu’s change affects my day? Zero. Still a great printer doing what I want it to. And I also realize that a subscription might happen. Sucks, but I knew that when I bought in. This righteous indignation on behalf of those of us who knew what the score was is ridiculous.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's not the walled garden that I object to. I had been planning on Bambu until now. It's the mandatory online mode where you won't be able to print without being online and getting their authorization. They used to have a lan only mode.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah this part bugs me the most. So if my internet is down for whatever reason I can’t use my local printer. Fuck you Bambu.

I’m glad you are able to make a different and more suitable choice for your needs.

[–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don't think the printer got any worse ...

I've put it in LAN mode, blocked it's internet access in my router and I don't plan to ever update the firmware. Also using orca slicer instead of bambu studio.

Prints perfectly fine. Worth every penny from my point of view.

( I agree though, that their move is extremely shitty and I won't be recommending it to others because of that )

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 5 days ago

Bit you know what you are doing, and based on the terms of service, which says they can require updates for use, could be in violation.

I agree, everyone should do this, but everyone won't know how.

[–] capably8341@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

Glad to hear you're able to keep using it! No reason to get rid of good hardware. I hope other people do the same.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago

They are good printers. It is just a crappy company showing their true colors... Which is sad for the consumers. Consumers are just the victims here. I never bought or owned a Bambu though. I always went with Prusa and now moving to Voron.

[–] Mr_Mofu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For those out of the Loop, what happened?

[–] EmilieEvans@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

DRM They limit who can talk what to their printers.

Most noticeably you can only send and start prints (g-code) with their own program over the network. Either bambu studio or a "cloud" gateway from BambuLab. It is no longer possible to do this from within Prusa- or OrcaSlicer.


my take:

  1. ~~ for the X1C they allow to install X1Plus firmware. The community asked for it. BambuLab allowed it back then and still does.~~ At the moment rooting an X1C isn't possible. Either it is a broken promise ("We will give customers the choice to install third party firmware and root system at their own risk.")or just a temporary issue.

  2. BambuLab sad that this will come. Only now that they have done it, most people are starting to notice.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So it sounds like you'll still be able to put gcode on the SD card and start it from there, no?

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Certainly. But that's not what the vast majority of users want to do though.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'd argue the same goes for using Orca Slicer. So a vast majority of people will still be able to continue using the Bambu Labs printers exactly how they have been, that's great.

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[–] illiterate_coder@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Most of the people posting angry rants about this news are not Bambu owners. On the other hand, most Bambu owners have no idea anything has changed, because we didn't buy these printers to mod or install custom firmware on or use whatever slicer tickles our fancy this week, we bought them because they Just Work(tm), work great, and are very reliable. I owned a hobbyist machine before and I just don't have the time anymore. I knew exactly what tradeoff I was making when I purchased from them, so condescending assholes can keep their patronizing I Told You So to themselves: this is not for you, you have other options and that's OK.

Side note: I also run Windows and Linux on my PC. You can diss Windows all you want but it has its uses and you're not winning any friends outside the Linux circle jerk community by being a raging asshole about it. The Bambu hate feels exactly the same.

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[–] Untrending@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, but...

I do agree partially with your statement. But (as always) it's a little more complicated.

BambooLab was known for their walled garden approach and that they have apple as their idol. So in that sense, people buying it, did so oftentimes willingly and therefore enabled the company to pull these stunts. I'm not blaming the people for going with the most comfortable solution, but that's usually what you get

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