Respect for her turning it down.
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Meh...it's a hollow gesture and a martyr for a lost cause. She already paid her fines and did the time. The pardon doesn't do anything for her. She's still a felon.
Wow, you don't see this every day. I'm impressed.
Things that pale skins can afford to do.
Props to her for becoming a better person then she was before. Takes guts to take that stance, I'd say
She seems like a good person who was misled by Trump if she has a moral compass like that.
Remember, a lot of those people were there because they were told that democracy was being undermined and the election was fraudulent. If that were actually the case, they might have been justified. But they only listed to the “facts” given by Trump instead of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It seems being sat down in court and shown the facts changed her mind. Which is not something you expect from someone in the MAGA cult.
Which is not something you expect from someone in the MAGA cult.
Agreed up to here.
Tons, if not most, Trump voters are just in a toxic information environment, and would not support him if (for instance) they were sat down in a court and showed facts.
But Trump won the propaganda game.
It basically boils down to, "if they had had entirely different experiences and had learned different things then they wouldn't be like this! We just need to change everything about them!"
Most of them are lost. I have given up because they simply do not want to be good people. They are not looking to make the MORAL choice. They want to win.
That's it. They would even take us just losing more than they do.
I will ensure they lose FAR more.
But Trump won the propaganda game.
Rupert Murdoch and Sinclair Broadcast Group won the propaganda game. Trump is a useful tool for them, he gives them operational control over tax, budget and regulatory policy. Murdoch has been laying ground for this since the Reagan administration.
This is wishful thinking, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
I've asked many of these people point blank about policies relating to gender, minorities, and many other black and white topics, and 100% of the time they roll with the bigoted preference.
I have no doubt that most of them are victims of propaganda and echo chambers, but I feel most already had deep ingrained views that they are now comfortable sharing because their hateful rhetoric has been wildly accepted. I do acknowledge that for a good chunk of those people, they were raised in that environment and never left, so it's more difficult to completely trash them, but in the digital environment where information spreads and the side of electricity, it tough to excuse any bigotry.
I do think if most of them were forced to think critically and explain their views, that they wouldn't actually support Trump, but critical thinking is kind of the problem.
Tomorrow's executive order: Execute Pam Hemphill for Treason.
Genuine respect for her. I bet it's hard to learn from your mistakes and actually reform yourself...
Especially in this trash prison system.
For. Profit. Prisons.
I'll never not be furious and embarrassed that this is a thing in our country.
Good on her. That said, wasn’t she sentenced in 2022 to 60 days in prison with 36 months of probation.
Isn’t this pardon kind of irrelevant to her? She been out for a while, and I imagine it’s pretty easy to decline the pardon.
Three hots and a cot has twisted the plot
Lunch is a Caesar salad and breakfast is cold cereal, so it’s one hot.