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Hi! In thinking about how to help the fediverse grow, I wonder if there are more mainstream Lemmy instances?

I've pointed a couple folks to Lemmy.world and it's uhhh, pretty hard Left for them (as one girl, who volunteered for the Democrats said "I just got yelled at because I can't be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism? Which feels weird.") We're much farther Left than reddit which itself was definitely Left of centre...

I don't know if decentralized open source social media actually attracts many mainstreamers but assuming we want to grow the fediverse, I'd like to have somewhere I can point people to without feeling very nervous for them.

Thanks!

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[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

Not really, it's taken me quite a while to curtail the content I see to just stuff I actually want to see. Keyword filters are helpful tho not perfect since a lot of people will self censor and thus bypass the keyword filters.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 24 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

Interesting take.

I think what you‘re talking about is called „anecdotal evidence“. Destroying capitalism is definitely not the „mainstream“ on lemmy, far from it. Although We dont have „normie-lizing“ moderation and bot armies that bury every post thats out of the norm.

Of course we attract a lot of freedom loving people. Freedom, turns out is an extremist left view. Asking to be paid for work done, asking to be able to work from home, etc.

I would ask your friend to show you more than one incident and also ask them to be open to making a new experience.

And although everyone will hate me for it: if you want fediverse lite (or bastardized corpo fediverse) you can always test bluesky and threads. They are more mainstream since they have larger user counts.

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[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 9 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

My instance doesn't really take a political stance, you're welcome unless you're an extremist (left or right, doesn't really matter to me).

Edit: But I think you're not gonna get better content anywhere that's federated, after all, your instance doesn't matter that much if you're seeing the same content everywhere.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, I'm not sure what the solution is or if there even is one. To paraphrase Randal in Clerks "lemmy would be great if it weren't for all the lemmings."

(I think a lot of folks are great but that small, albeit very vocal group... Ugh.)

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Roughly speaking, Lemm.ee is more libertarian some libright. Slrpnk is libleft but is home to pleasant politics community. Dbzer0 is anarchy leftist. World is closest to US centrist. Lemmy.ca is kind of Reddit's onguardforthee vibe, Left/NDP wing.

Thing is that influences from other more ideological instances will make it onto All threads. "Lib-shaming" is something some folks at lemmy.ml, hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml like to do frequently, which is where those experiences might have come from.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 14 hours ago (29 children)

Lib shaming is for good reason as the US and most of the western world falls to fascism thanks to libs creating the material conditions for it.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

Lemmy world is probably the most centerist instance that hasn’t been defederated. Lemm.ee are sh.it.just.works are probably good replacements if she thinks it is just to far left wing but it’s probably that she is seeing .ml or one of the other various socialist instances.

She will need to utilize her block list to block tankie users and communities if she doesn’t want to see them. A lot of entrenched users are here because they realized that mainstream platforms were enshittified a lot earlier because they of their anti capitalist views

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 11 points 13 hours ago

Lemmy.world is the most mainstream instance. You may find small instances that have more political center types, but for all the "issue" is that the fediverse is federated. So lemmy.ml users can comment on your post on lemmy.world as well.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

That's funny because the majority of Lemmy.World are people who left Reddit during the 3rd party app-ocolypse. Though I suppose many of them also saw Reddit becoming more and more pro-Nazi as time went on. The loss of the apps was just the kick in the pants needed to actually leave.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Lemmy.world is too left?. It always looked normal to me. Although, I do want the total annihilation of capitalism, so...

Normally big instances are the most generalistic and less "politically biased", but sometimes a more small and focused instance could be better for the things you want.

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[–] emergencycall@fedia.io 12 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Check the various compatible kbin and mbin servers as well. I'm posting from fedia.io, an mbin server

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

You'd have to show who specifically was yelling. You see everyone from all instances they're federated with. They might not have even been from Lemmy.world.

Edit: Case in point, I'm from programming.dev

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure that "got yelled at" is a great metric. On L.W., it probably depends on the community a bit but it's not likely they're getting yelled at by a mod, or having their post/comment deleted, right? No one's going to ban their account there.

In terms of users -- except for the bad places -- everywhere is "here." You can block people that are being exceptionally dickish too.

And, real talk, you can say "it's a beautiful day today" and there'll be two dildos that downvote you and maybe someone that's like "not everywhere!!!" Don't let it get ya down.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 14 hours ago

i think the content and the 'home base instance' can be completely separate. its all about what they would choose to subscribe to.

theoretically you could be on lemmy.world and not subscribe to or access any of its local content. conversely, an 'onramp' instance might not have much of any local content but have access to hundreds of remote instances. (mine for example)

it can be kind of confusing for new users.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've found that for those moving from reddit, sh.itjust.works seems to be pretty accessible

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