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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 77 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

If you ask someone if they are Nazis, and their answer is to get confused and ask about the premise of the question, there is about a 90% chance they are Nazis. Non-Nazis will say, "What? No, definitely not."

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

If you ask someone who isn't a Nazi if they're a Nazi out of nowhere then confusion seems pretty valid. If there's a premise to it that they understand (by being Nazis or acting like ones) you'd get less genuine confusion.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 3 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah but even if there's some initial confusion, most normal people will get to a clear negative answer pretty quickly.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 16 minutes ago

That's true. But I'd definitely also want to know what prompted the question

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 hours ago

I would also accept "did you just call me a fucking nazi?"

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago

This is the answer right here.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 69 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Always amazing when people don't get satire.

My Dad actually thought Starship Troopers was pro-military.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

It's amazing the number of people who do.

It's got Neil Patrick Harris in it how on Earth can it possibly be pro military?

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago

Well, the book is... The movie tho, yeah Paul Verhoeven has opinions about fascists. 😂

His commentary on that film is truly one of the better commentary tracks I've ever listened to.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 44 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

How?

That movie has the subtlety of a brick to the head

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 54 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

So did The Boys and Helldiver's 2, and yet a substantial population of conservatives took it literally. Now The Boys has to be so blatant, it's not as funny anymore.

Some people are just idiots, just the way it is.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao about the boys. I started watching that and definitely in the first season it wasn’t even subtle, by the 4th season, which apparently is when conservatives got mad (?), it was beating you into submission with the messaging. Like, subtlety was not even in the lexicon, more like bulldozing you.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago

I stopped watching after season 2 because I couldn't stand the lack of subtlety - despite loving the original comic which is... not subtle at all.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

Maybe if they paid more attention in English (and history) class, they wouldn't miss subtext the size of a tractor trailer running into them. But conservatives and STEM bros almost always seem to be on the same page with that shit "No one needs English classes, it's always just like 'hur the curtains are blue' bro."

They see the part that gives them a confirmation bias and willfully ignore the rest of the message.

As the saying goes: Spread the facts on the floor like a fan, and throw away the ones that make you feel bad.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 6 points 3 hours ago

I'd like to know more.

In all seriousness though, I thought it had some aspects of good, which was odd given that it's satirical commentary on fascism. For instance, gender didn't really matter and women were promoted, and while the shower scene was meant to show how fascism castrates the masses (or something like that, iirc), I thought it was a relatively wholesome scene, all things considered.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

A brick to the head...

Good idea.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I like to use bars of soap personally.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago

I prefer cans of soup for my family

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

I know the book was but this sort of people who think that starship troopers is profascism, are also a sort of people that will definitely not be well read.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The good groups are the ones who are very interested in fantasy Nazis ironically.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 29 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

If I play the theo-fascists then my total incompetence at strategy makes them look bad

[–] Vladkar@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If strapping tank treads to a church isn't peak military competence, I don't know what is.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

A railgun the size of the Eiffel Tower strapped to mech. Can't get more competent than that.

[–] Vladkar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

As long as the slugs are slowly loaded manually by a bunch of servitors.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 4 hours ago

Haha dead Nazis

[–] Xyre@lemmus.org 54 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

So, uh, where's the diagram?

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 hours ago

but obviously a diagram doesn't help the willingly blind ;-)

but curious to see the slides too.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

If you know what the Imperium is about, it isn't surprising for neo-nazis to play out their fantasies that way.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

this is an edit on an older green text, but the premise was gym, based, and cringe.

[–] MathiasTCK@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

Makes sense. It is an oft discussed trend though. There are large unmoderated 40k FB groups they are very focused on anti trans activism and Trump worship, and smaller GB groups that are, worse.

There are also plenty of fine groups, or at least groups that put miniature photos firsts.

YouTube is similarly split between creepy Black Templar afficionados and channels more like my recent fav Shining Nathan

https://youtu.be/ufiwszsw-Eg

40k Brunch Gossip Episode 1 #warhammer40k

But you didn't hear it from me.