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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 44 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

If you ask someone who isn't a Nazi if they're a Nazi out of nowhere then confusion seems pretty valid. If there's a premise to it that they understand (by being Nazis or acting like ones) you'd get less genuine confusion.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

If the context is 40k, definitely not an unexpected question.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 35 minutes ago

Is there something about the tabletop portion of the community I don't get? I just like the lore of the universe and if someone asked me if I was a nazi based on that I would be very confused.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Right, in that context it wouldn't be.

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org 10 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Meh depends on the setting. My partner and I are organizing smaller concerts from time to time. If we are about to book an unknown band sooner or later we have to ask the Nazi question.

The setting here feels similar.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Of course setting, their actions and whatnot matter. It isn't out of nowhere if there's some context for it that the recipient also understands.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but even if there's some initial confusion, most normal people will get to a clear negative answer pretty quickly.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's true. But I'd definitely also want to know what prompted the question

[–] licheas@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

it's a warhammer 40k group.

There's a 50/50 chance they're neonazis. (ask if they ever play as Imperium... that's a solid way to find out.)

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Same with Fallout fans who are oddly obsessed with The Brotherhood of Steel.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

I wrote a brotherhood pin in high school. But that was before fallout 3 was released when the brotherhood were essentially militaristic hermits. I loved fallout when it was essentially an anarchist propaganda piece that satirized all power structures as eventually toxic in rebuilding the apocalypse. The only good guys were the followers of the apocalypse who were strictly anarchist.

The brotherhood were portrayed as ineffectual and the enclave were essentially the brotherhood if it became less isolationist. Both were obviously satirizing American political ideologies. Fallout 3 decided to throw all that out and make the brotherhood interventionist, meaning the theme was a fight between good America world police with the brotherhood and bad America world police with the enclave. A suitable post 9/11 liberal's view of the world, but largely uncritical to power structures. You got to vote for the "lesser of two evils" in that game, but that fact was presented uncritically and not satirized at all.

[–] B312@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Enclave is probably more accurate

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Caesar's Legion is the most accurate

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

We were talking generally