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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember when conservatives turned against guns because the Black Panthers armed themselves against racists

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's when American gun control began in earnest. Like many things, the authoritarian approach is rooted in racism.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Black Panthers and the insuing riots after the murder of MLK got blacks the right to vote. And led to the first sensible gun laws in US history.

Nothing meaningfully improves until the rich fear for their lives.

This is a historical fact for our Republic

It's almost like guns are the answer to solving problems in relation to oppression.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That is awesome. I have always felt pretty real sure that Guthrie's guitar has never actually killed fascists

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago

According to the Behind the Bastards about Guthrie (they always do a Christmas episode about a non-bastard), it was a standard thing to put on machines used to build stuff for the war.

I don't think he was claiming to have literally beaten a fascist to death with a guitar, but you never know with that guy.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I have a pink, white, and purple braced AR pistol that fires 7.62x39.

It's got a 7" barrel, so it's loud and proud.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can tell they mean it negatively, but they make it sound like a great time to join the protest.

[–] statler_waldorf@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Being Madison, it could go either way. The Capitol is very lefty, but there's hillbilly farmland 20 minutes outside town.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

That's basically every metropolitan city in the US.

45 minutes outside of DC you'll find plenty of MAGA mouthbreathers who directly benefit from their proximity, but who never see the irony of their opinions.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

So it’s only okay for republicans to taunt their guns.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago
[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 6 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Is it the AK47 they're uncomfortable with or the transgender badge?

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago

Pretty sure it's the badge

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[–] drthunder@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty anti-gun despite being on the left, but I think I've seen ~~this person~~ her at protests before and if anyone's gonna have a gun I'd prefer it be her over anyone else.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm in favor of regulating guns, and I feel like keeping one on my person / in my living space actually increases my risk of injury. However, I also think it's a good idea to know how to violently resist if necessary. (I have shot pistols, shotguns, and rifles before.) And, I don't think it's unreasonable for people of any political persuasion to have access to armaments in case they need to "fertilize the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants".

[–] drthunder@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've read that having a gun in your house does increase your risk of being shot. That being said, I understand that having guns helped groups like the Panthers keep their communities safer. I don't think they'll help us most of the time in resisting a dictatorship, though. If we beat the fascists, I think more of it will come from sabotage, mass strikes, etc, as opposed to shooting.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Most gun owners believe that those statistics don't apply to them. I believe they do apply to me (since I do live with a gun owner).

I agree that resistance is unlikely to primarily take the form of infantry combat, but it wouldn't surprise me if some communities do have to repel an armed force, which will be much more difficult without at least some community members having access to and proficiency with small arms.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's all about timing.

Having guns makes you less safe when you don't need them

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This bitch loved it when armed people showed up at a library.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I fully support anyone and everyone being armed. It’s a shame we can’t have them here in the Netherlands, but I’m very pro-self defense and self reliance. The government will only protect you so far, if that. And an armed group is much less likely to get fucked with.

I support gays with AK’s, queers with auto sears, transfems with FN’s and everyone else who feels the need to protect themselves and each other.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (19 children)

People: please do not carry an AK. Just get an AR. ARs have interchangeable parts, ammunition is cheap, and aside from Bear Creek Arsenal, they're going to just work. AKs require significant hand fitting and there's no single standard, ammunition prices have risen sharply since the cheap milsurp ammo flow got cut off, and at the cheaper end they tend to be dangerous to the user. Yes, I know that AKs have a reputation got working in adverse conditions, but that reputation dates to the Vietnam war, when the AR was a new platform; modern ARs are far, far more reliable and accurate than an AK.

You can still get an AK for fun, but don't don't treat it like your serious gun.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I have a buddy who did gun repairs, he fucking hates AR-15s. If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun. It's a cheap, widely available platform that has cheap and widely available ammo, it just fucking works, it's easy to care for, easy to use, pretty standard maintenance, and will kill what you need it to. They're lethal much further out than video games imply, because otherwise they'd completely wreck the balance of the game.

Edit: I asked him for his specific beef with ARs, this was his response.

  1. They're a bitch to clean. There's lots of places that need to be cleaned that can't be reached easily, tons of little pockets and grooves you can't get into; requires a dental pick, star shaped cleaning patches, and a shit load of cotton swabs to get through.

  2. If it's locked up, you can't knock on the charging handle or emergency kick the charging handle to clear it. You will not be able to field strip this rifle if it's jammed out of battery.

  3. Aluminum gas blocks are apparently very popular, and they will corrode to failure at the gas tube port.

  4. The extractor pin will often shatter in place, which causes intermittent failure while not looking wrong unless you know what you're looking for.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

They're a bitch to clean.

No they're not. They tear down easily without tools. I can't think of a part that can't be cleaned easily. Maybe the gas tube?

If it's locked up, you can't knock on the charging handle

There's a button called a forward assist for that specific purpose.

Aluminum gas blocks...

Milspec blocks are not aluminum, he's complaining about after-market, non-standard mods.

The extractor pin will often shatter in place,

I've seen this on cheap BCGs. It's annoying, but it's easily fixable and won't render the gun useless. You'll just have to manually clear it.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun

Disagree.

First, ammo starts at a minimum of 44cpr for 00 buck. Second, unless you get mag fed shotguns--which have their own problems--you're getting a maximum of about 7 rounds. Third, if you're talking about pump guns, it's pretty easy to short stroke one in a high-stress situation. Gas guns are a different matter, but they're pickier about ammo. Fourth--again, unless you have a mag fed shotgun--reloading is not nearly as quick and easy as it is with any firearm with a magazine.

If it’s locked up, you can’t knock on the charging handle or emergency kick the charging handle to clear it.

You mortar them; that usually gets it. I've had to do that a few times.

Yeah, a detail strip and clean is a bastard. But you don't really need to do those very often. A field strip and clean is sufficient most of the time.

[–] FPSXpert@discuss.online 3 points 23 hours ago

A couple things I have to note, also as someone that used to do gun repairs and basic gunsmithing for a shop back in the day:

  1. They are a bitch to clean, but the right tools can make it a lot easier. Get a boresnake, proper cleaning solvent and lube, patches and brushes, both brass and regular brush. Watch a youtube video and learn how to properly clean it. Pop out the two push pins and field strip it and cleaning it is rather easy. For the upper run boresnake through with solvent and patches until clean, then run it through again with lube. EZ.

(Also learn to clean or at least do a half-ass clean if time is a problem after every range visit, we got so many firearms that looked like they hadn't been cleaned in years and were always a real bitch to take care of. My personal favorite was someone upset that we couldn't magically restore his "5 years in a garage in Florida humidity in a duffel bag never fired or cleaned" that was rusted and pitted to hell, and that it couldn't be brought back to factory new for 30 bucks 😂)

  1. I haven't personally had this happen to me, but also range use will vary wildly from combat use so I can't speak on this too much.

  2. They are because aluminum is very popular for manufacturing. If taken care of properly, this won't be an issue. See above that most people don't clean and maintain theirs properly lmao

  3. Skill issue. Memes aside a good quality BCG is important for this reason. More people need to learn how the parts work on their build and change out parts as necessary if they are having issues with certain parts of it.

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[–] 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Ugh. I still hate guns. Guns kill people and the US obsession with them will never make sense to me.

But at this point it's probably good that it's not only the supporters if the lunatic fascist oligarchy that are armed. It hurts to admit, but I'd rather see a Nazi shot dead than a decent human being. Heck, if I were in the US I might learn how to shoot a gun at this point.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I hate nukes but the lesson of the 21st century has definitely been "get nukes and never give them up"

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[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Marx said workers should be armed. That sentiment didn't come out of nowhere; shit like this is the reason why.

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I hate spatulas but the fact remains that eggs have to be turned

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[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Hey, an actual good person with a gun!

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Its time to make good on those death threats Chaya keeps getting

[–] selson@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

FUCK YES!! Arm the fuck up. The rights not correct about much but a good guy with a gun can indeed stop a bad guy with a gun

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 150 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Honestly it’s good for the MAGA crowd to see that normal people in America are armed too. They see themselves as wolves among sheep, while the masses are armed only with their useless empathy and critical thinking skills.

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[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd be armed if my wife wasn't so leery about firearms. She and my father-in-law are part of a ethnic minority that is specifically targeted by white supremacists and my state has active Nazi and Third Position groups. Given the way shit's going, I want to be prepared for anything.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

The only things that ever slowed the Nazis down was Russian winters and getting shot, and we're all out of Russian winters.

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

Sweet. Sounds based. Let's do more of this.

[–] dechnically@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

incredibly based. i'll take 30.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 212 points 2 days ago (10 children)

FYI:

Libs of TikTok is a handle for various far-right[a] and anti-LGBT[b] social-media accounts operated by Chaya Raichik (/ˈxɑːjə ˈraɪtʃɪk/ KHAH-yə RY-chik),[10] a former real estate agent.[11][12][13] Raichik uses the accounts to repost content created by left-wing and LGBT people on TikTok, and on other social-media platforms, often with hostile, mocking, or derogatory commentary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libs_of_TikTok

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