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Florida man found guilty of murdering wife after she refused to go on home renovation TV show (www.nbcnews.com)

submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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A jury convicted a Florida man of first-degree murder Wednesday in the 2018 strangling and beating death of his wife after she refused to appear on a home renovation reality TV show, prosecutors said.

David Tronnes, 55, killed his wife, Shanti Cooper-Tronnes, on April 24, 2018, in the couple’s home in the Orlando neighborhood of Delaney Park, the State Attorney’s Office for the Ninth Judicial Circuit said in a statement Wednesday.

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[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The show was “Zombie House Renovations” in case anyone was curious.

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Trying to make her a zombie for the show, what's the issue?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Floridian method acting

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Down there they call it the Meth Id.

[–] BigPapaE@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

God it's morbid but this made me laugh so hard

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fuck

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm guessing he had some other issues aside from that.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably some loose floorboards and bad sheathing.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And no hurricane clips. That one works as a mental health analogy, too.

[–] Case@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago

I suppose if you know what hurricane clips are.

Sorry, while part of my state deals with hurricanes, I am VERY inland.

Now tornadoes? Yeah, when the sky turns green its time to go outside and meet your neighbors.

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are reasons, and then there are REASONS

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"There is no reason to hit a woman." - Bill Burr

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What if she's trying to murder you?

Checkmate, COMEDIAN.

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

There's equality and there's EQUALITY

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Either these curtains go or you do.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wow. That is crazy. Glad he is guilty.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

I think you mean, "Glad he was found guilty." I don't think you are glad he is guilty of killing someone.

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Glad he is guilty.

you're glad he did it or just that he was convicted?

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

Nothing like a little domestic homicide to perk up your friday

[+] Hawke@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn’t it the same thing? Innocent until proven guilty?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Being guilty and being found guilty are different things. One happens the moment the crime occurs, the other happens when a verdict is rendered. The law goes by the second one because it doesn't have a crystal ball to figure out the first.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They’re identical in the eyes of the law.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

No they aren't. Even the law just looks for proof "beyond reasonable doubt" rather than saying it's objective truth. The law allows for appeals because it knows it's not right all the time. It'll deny bail if it believes a person is a danger or flight risk, despite having no conviction yet. It will release names of people charged with crimes, knowing that the public often confuses that with guilt. Prosecutors push for convictions rather than truth.

There's a lot of ways that you can show that actual guilt and lawful guilt are two different things, even in the eyes of the law itself.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

The full quote is "innocent until proven quilty in the eyes of the law." The court is trying to discover guilt or not, not actually creating it. If you killed someone you killed someone. Whether the court has enough evidence to convict you of it doesn't matter. You're either guilty or not of the act. The court mat not find enough evidence to convict you, so they'll find you "not guilty" (which I'll note is not finding you innocent). However, just like you might not find your keys, guilt or innocence exists regardless of the findings. Maybe the search just wasn't good enough. The law just may not view you as guilty if it couldn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And we thought the "dinner is pizza" ad was stupid.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What was that ad?

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

The guy who got pissed at his wife for getting pizza for dinner. Any normal person would be like "hell yeah, pizza!"

[+] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -100 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I know the heart want what the heart wants but...

She chose poorly. Don't tolerate abusive behavior. It's a sign of something.

This guy's obviously the problem, and not her, but get away from crazy people for ducks sake. The crazy is not all there is. It's just the label.

She did NOT deserve to die, not saying that. But she might have lived if she had had hard boundaries of tolerable behavior. If this was the first time he acted out, then I'm sorry for judging, it couldn't be helped. But I don't think so.

Shit, I know I'm going to regret hitting "Post".

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 66 points 2 years ago (2 children)

75% of women killed by intimate partners are killed when they attempt to leave or after they have left. Getting away is in no way, shape, or form a path to safety.

https://domesticabuseshelter.org/domestic-violence/#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20a%20woman%20will,have%20left%20an%20abusive%20relationship.

[–] tycho@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago

Wow didn't know about this metric :(

[+] Hawke@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gonna disagree with that. Just because the path to safety is also dangerous doesn’t mean it’s not the path to safety.

People are sometimes forced to choose between two dangerous options.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People are sometimes forced to choose between two dangerous options.

And yet you disagree with the fact that the chance of being murdered increases when they make the choice to leave? Even when provided evidence?

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I disagree with the suggestion that “getting away is in no way a path to safety”.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Statistically it's true so have fun with that ig

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s like escaping a war-torn country as a refugee. Is that trip dangerous? Yes. Does that mean they should stay in an unsafe situation? No.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not the same. Not every abusive relationship is a threat to your life but 75% of the time escaping an abusive relationship adds a new threat to life. Maybe a better way of putting it would have been "a guaranteed path to safety" but at that point you're just arguing semantics. I would be extremely surprised if escaping a war-torn country adds another 75% chance you'll be murdered. And it's not an argument to not leave the relationship if that's what you're taking from all this.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You may want to reconsider your math. There’s a big difference between “75% of women who are killed by a partner are killed when they leave” and “75% of women who leave an abusive partner are killed”.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gotta love 14 year olds who have complex issues All Figured Out.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My Sims don't kill each other. How hard could it be in real life?

[–] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Then you're playing it wrong. :3

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 years ago

Nice victim blaming you fucking psycho

[–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's an easy way to prevent the deaths of women by their male partners! It's called "men don't kill their female partners." It's that easy. Try it sometime!

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Oh nice, thank you for solving the problem!

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago

Shit, I know I'm going to regret hitting "Post".

"Discard draft" was definitely the way to go and delete is still an option.

[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It has nothing to do with the heart.

Sigh. I really wish that people who don't know what they are talking about would just not post.

I "escaped" my abusive marriage, just to watch my kids be abused by him for fifteen years. It's not a decision between good and bad. It's mostly a choice between bad and bad. Abuse leaves victims no good choices.

Much of the time, the first definitive sign is the one that ends up with you dead.

I've been in a largely invisible one-sided war for almost twenty years. I have a lot of resources many victims simply don't have, and still I'm stuck. The last thing any of us needs is an armchair referee telling us what we should be doing while stuffing metaphorical Cheetos up his nose.

[–] Cappurnikus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

If you find yourself talking a lot to defend a prior statement maybe stop and consider it for a few minutes before posting.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Bad take aside, this is Florida we're talking about.