Imagine paying $80 annually for this mediocre trash.
Edit: Down for 20 hours.
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I do and I’ve never had this problem. Ever. If the system goes down it’s rarely for more than a few hours, at which point i live my life, since I understand shit happens and servers sometimes fail. I dunno what your complaint is exactly but I get great value out of that yearly fee
This has actually happened before multiple times. Why pay for internet usage also? You all are getting scammed. You know consoles even used to have free internet as well, the PS2 HDD glory days.
You get zero value out of that fee, they are literally just taking your money. The fact you cannot see this is extremely sad
Does PS+ not give free games anymore?
I kept hearing this free games. Will you be keeping the game if you unsub?
Nope, but if you resub you’ll get the games back.
subscriptions for games! thats exactly what i wanted!
So not free at all then lmao. Subscriptions for games? Yikes
It does and I always have something new to play between the monthly and catalogue games. Some people think it’s only for online access i guess
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The complaint is that online on PC is free like it should be, not this ridiculous $80/year bullshit that console manufacturers can lock you into their ecosystem and force you to do.
If I'm paying $80/year for a service that's free on an already better platform, you'd better believe that it going down for this long (or basically at all) would be totally unacceptable.
If you have kids the fact the system is locked in becomes something of an advantage. MS and Sony are pretty aggressive moderating accounts when it comes to people being inappropriate around kids which is something you can't get as easily on PC.
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PSN being down is a tale as old as time. When the PS3 was out and before the PS4 was announced PSN had been down like at least once a month. It was well known as the least reliable gaming network. Even though Nintendo had their "Nintendo WiFi Connection" which was basically P2P and super garbage, it did not go down like PSN did.
Xbox Live was vastly more reliable, likely because Microsoft has a better understanding of how to run a network, and they took the subscription money and reinvested it back into Xbox Live, growing and bolstering it to the point that it has its reputation for being the most reliable of the 3 gaming networks.
I feel like I need to add in this is being disingenuous. As someone who had the Ps3 during that time, for the most part PlayStation network was fairly reliable. With the exception of the 2011 Anonymous hack that took their entire system down for a month. But they came back and gave a handful of games free to everyone that was involved out of it.
Like sure it would be down for an hour or two at a time periodically during update windows, but that's standard and it was a mostly reliable service,
I would play the PS3 basically daily cuz I was a massive Cod fan at the time. I rarely ever had an issue of logging on and having the network be offline.
In the distant past of like 2000, you didn't have to pay for online functionality. Also, people could host their own multiplayer servers. It was nice. Consoles and capitalism did a team-up to make things shittier for the end user, though.
In the distant past of like 2000
Things change a lot in 25 years. Servers aren't free
Fans were happy to run the servers at their own expense.
Yet PC players don't have to pay for servers
But you did? I paid for GameSpy back in the day. And MMOs had fees to play online.
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you pay a monthly fee for videogames just so you can not play them?
Did you not just read about how I play pretty much everything on there? It’s so weird hating a game company so much that you get mad when someone else gets value for their money
You are the only one hating everyones comments.
What is weird is defending paying to play online
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i'm not mad.
you seem to be.
Why does this happen to Sony every few years? They expect you to pay for online and just can't get their shit together.
Good thing they stopped with the PSN requirement on PC. Imagine buying your singleplayer game and you can't play it the entire day because Sony forgot to pay their server bills.
This hardly ever happens anymore. I remember the days of the PS3 when it felt like a weekly occurrence.
Weren't they down for ~7 hours just last year?
Not saying it happens often but having a downtime that long is unprofessional for a company that size.
Yes. A worldwide service provider should be able to achieve at least 4 9s of uptime. That's 99.99% available, or about <52 minutes of downtime a year. That's accomplished through best practices with redundancy, planned maintenance, and solid disaster recovery plans.
The ways to achieve a disaster of this magnitude include:
- No hot spares
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- A security event has locked all redundant servers and they are now rebuilding servers from backup.
- Lack of effective redundancy
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- A disaster has occurred at one data center and the load sharing is causing the servers to be unresponsive
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- This is unlikely because there would be intermittent reports of success
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- Poor patching management
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- Patches were sent to all servers without proper testing or rollback strategy
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Weren't they down for ~7 hours just last year?
Sure was.
Parents world-wide talk to their children for the first time!
Only in 70 countries. No change in rest of 100+ countries.
lol my son is acting like this is the worse thing that ever happened to him. (It might, he’s lived a pretty privileged life)
This is why I don’t play PS5 online and I have my PS3 just RSS in case
Is reading RSS feeds on your PS3 a good substitute for playing PS5 online?
I meant I have my ps3 just in case not rss lol oops I’m using it right now to play madden 25 (2014) cause the new Madden 25 won’t let me play superstar mode without a psn connection to play single player???
Looks like it's finally coming back up.
Edit: nevermind, not fully back up. Looks like some PSN services are working, but game logins are still down.
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