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Worse. Trae is probably more talented, but he doesn't bring what the Nuggets need. Murray is better off-ball and is a better fit with Jokic.

So long as Trae can accept the secondary role, Trae

I'd say worse because Murray is better fit with Jokic and it's not like he is much worse than Trae anyway

Worse.

DEN wouldn't do it, because Trae doesn't fit their profile. #1 is size at the position.

About the same. Better on offense, you could have way more success staggering units, and he still works with Jokic. Defensively, Murray's 6'4" and bulky while Trae's a 6'1" towel. They lose the switching the schemes probably much worse and now their size that was a strength looks like 3 targets who start.

They’re better with Murray no matter how much Reddit hates it

Worse. Much worse.

Murray is a better defender, has a better attitude, gels better with his team, isn't as ball dominant, and his face doesn't annoy me.

Specifically in that system, Trae would be worse simply because he hasn’t shown the ability to move without the ball.

Maybe with Jokic that would change but we haven’t seen him do it, and can only speculate.

But if i’m picking one player to start a franchise, it’s Trae no question for me.

Way worse

Worse

I think worse but not as much as most of this thread. Trae makes the non jokic minutes which has been a problem every year for denver much better. Murray is a great playoff performer and fit with jokic but he can’t carry 2nd units by himself

They get better, imagine Trae Young not having to worry about facilitating the offense and instead focusing almost solely on scoring. That pick and roll would be deadly as well lol

Jamal Murray will get the widespread credit he deserves next season. This will be his first prime healthy season, and this question will be easily put to bed.

So much worze

Worse, because I don’t want the ball out of Jokic’s hands.

This question makes me mad at how stupid it is

So much worse

Much worse, unless you hypothesize that Trae become a player we've only seen in short spurts in his entire career: a guy who is locked in on defense and plays hard after he passes the ball.

Trae is really really good with the ball in his hands. He, for his career, has been largely mediocre when it's not in his hands, on both sides of the floor.

With Jokic you don't really want the ball in Trae's hands.

In the past couple years, Trae Young's has put up elite and incredible regular season stats and they dwarfs those of Murrays.

But when it mattered most (the playoffs) Murray's stats have likewise been elite:

2020 - ppg 26.5 ast 6.6 tov 2.8 on .626 TS

2023 - ppg 26.1 ast 7.1 tov 2.5 on .586 TS

That's arguably a top 3 playoff performance by a secondary star in the past decade++.

stays the same

Do jokic and trae have the chemistry of jokic and murray if yes better but if its a situation where trae and jokic never played together worse

I would say worse bc he is an abusable defender, and as it stands Denver doesn’t really have someone on that end who is a clear target for defenses.

Also bc Murray is much better at diving to the rim and finishing, and Denver’s offense utilizes a lot of off-ball cutting.

Easily worse. Trae Young provides 0 defense

Worse, not only has Murray built up an amazing chemistry with jokic on offense that is bigger than either of them and probably up there with Stockton Malone as the best two pnr duos ever. But he also is an actual competent defender of both point and shooting guards and can switch comfortably on most forwards or at least as comfortable as any other point gaurd is. That’s the nuggets whole gaurd philosophy: 3 point shooters who can gaurd forwards and bigger guards due to their size, it’s why KCP and Bruce brown were so key Bc both can do those things.

As the first option on a team Trae is probably better. As the second option on the Nuggets give me Murray every time. There is 0 guarantee Jokic has the same chemistry with Trae he does with Murray. Plus as others said Booth would not want a smaller player, one of the nuggets biggest advantages is being above average size wise at every position except MAYBE pointguard, but at least Murray is not undersized like Trae.

Worse