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A month after a pig heart transplant, man works to regain strength with no rejection so far::It's been a month since a Maryland man became the second person to receive a transplanted heart from a pig


and hospital video released Friday shows he's working hard to recover.

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[–] AccidentalLemming@lemmy.world 131 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Growing genetically modified pigs with human-like hearts to save human lives? The ethics of that are a bit complicated, but from a STEM perspective it's a really fascinating idea. What a time to be alive.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 144 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There's nothing ethically wrong with this until we consider eating meat unethical. As a society, we're nowhere near that.

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[–] AccidentalLemming@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You're breeding and killing an animal for its organs, and some would find that unethical. But you are doing it to save a human life, so it's a bit of a trolley problem I suppose.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's not less ethical than doing it for meat, is my point.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 28 points 11 months ago

Especially since a pig raised for organ transplant probably has way better living conditions than a pig raised for meat in an industrial farm.

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

That's literally what the meat industry is though. I guess in americanized cultures more of the animal is seen as waste parts rather than food, but those probably become hot dogs anyways.

Anyways, the way I see it meat for eating, and even pig organ transplants are both raising a pig to put parts of its body into a human's body.

[–] theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 14 points 11 months ago

Is it different from breeding and killing an animal to eat it?

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[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 57 points 11 months ago (23 children)

As much as I love animals (more than most people I meet), as a species we must value human life over animal life to some extent. Suffering for corporate exploitation? No, that's cruel and evil. Minimal suffering in an organism to save a human life? I wish there was a way to keep it from being sentient (so no suffering is felt), but I believe it's a fair trade for a human life. But yes, we must always strive to minimize the suffering we cause.

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[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

I hope we get to mass manufacturing lab grown hearts quickly. No need to harm sentients.

1 Star Trek replicator please!

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Easy just grow cabbages with human-like hearts to appease the vegans.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

See ? show this to the next person who says 'ACAB'

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I doubt this pig opted-in to the donation. If it wasn't a choice, it doesn't make them good.

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[–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 6 points 11 months ago

We all know he has a gold sword somewhere in his house.

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Has he gained any pig-like superpowers so far?

[–] FrostbyteIX@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

"Spider Pig, Spider Pig, Does whatever a Spider Pig does..."

I'm surprised and mildly disappointed no one else commented this.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

South Park certainly didn't hold back on that episode 😂

[–] frokie@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Man, and I thought I had bacon in my heart

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why pig hearts? Is it just a size issue?

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Pig organs are approximately the same size and configuration as human ones. They also share a very similar immune system and biochemistry. We also have experience breeding and genetically modifying them. This makes them the easiest option to modify for human use. Still not easy, but easiest.

[–] Surdon@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Oh so animal farm was literal?

[–] riskable@programming.dev 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Unexpected Lol. Well done.

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[–] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Skill issue, actually

[–] DrM@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Jim haggerty? You survived?

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[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Maryland team last year performed the world's first transplant of a heart from a genetically altered pig into another dying man.

What is this sentence? The word "another" implies either this man wasn't the first or that a "genetically altered pig" is legally considered dying man.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The man in the first four paragraphs of the article, Lawrence Faucette, is the second dying man to receive a genetically modified pig heart. The first dying man, referred to in your quote, only survived two months but the heart failed, possibly due to a virus in the heart that came from the pig.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thank you for your explanation. I did not follow correctly.

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