Young players typically don't play well in their first finals. Also, the Celtics have issues executing their half court offence
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Theyre a good team but have well defined weaknesses and warriors managed to exploit that in their series.
Also warriors couldve closed them out in 5 if boston doesnt go scorching hot on that 4q in the first game, i dont think it was that close but thats just me
On the last statement I could argue that the Celtics could have been up 3-1 with a commanding lead if Steph didn't went up and put one of the greatest finals performances ever... for sure the best 3pt performance in the Finals ever.
and Boston could’ve won if Jordan Poole wasn’t scorching hot in that one game
This “could have been different if something happened differently” is such a dumb fucking trope in sports lmao
Curry
Because the Warriors were better? Yeh it's prob that
It’s definitely that.
An argument could be made that the Celtics were a better roster but the gap between Curry and Tatum was so big it didn’t matter
Curry had one of his best series of his career while Tatum had one of his worst
ESPN gave Celtics an 83% chance to win. most analytics had Celtics better rated
that was lowkey one of the more impressive titles in history
- Turnovers
- Stephen Curry
- Jayson Tatum
- Bench
- Inconsistent Shooting
Literally just turnovers. Without the insane turnovers they likely would have overcome every other factor working against them. The combination of incredible perimeter D by GPJr and Wiggins causing turnovers abs a shitload of unforced turnovers put the Celtics in the grave they dug for himself. Didn’t Tatum and Brown alone have 100 turnovers in that series?
The sky giggled and went to wardells bedroom
they didn't win enough games
Steph and Wiggins.
Night Night
Tatum had a horrendous finals
Tatum didn’t play like a superstar, Steph did
Tatum choked
If Tatum doesn’t shrink they would have been much better off
“If they Celtics best player played better, the Celtics would have played better”
Big if true
even if they beat the heat they were never gna beat the nuggets.. 22 was jus denver’s year.. id like to think if they didn’t lose Ime Udoka things would of played out differently.. im kinda hype to see what he does in houston
Steph in 2021 : "You don't wanna see us next year"
Steph in 2022 : You know the rules, and so do I
Just missed a couple of shots that the Warriors made and that was it. It's not that deep.
Honestly i thought refs handed warriors game 2. Could have been up 3-0
Have you heard of Steph Curry ?
You're just going to gloss over game 4 like it was no big deal?
Also not having Robert Williams was a big problem. He was a huge issue for the Warriors, and they instead had to lean more on Grant Williams who is total ass and has no business contributing at that level
There’s no reason, really
Steph went nuclear in Game 4. If Steph had a regular Steph game, maybe the Celts would open 3-1 and that would be it
At the same time, Middleton was injured. Maybe if Middleton was healthy, the Bucks would have won.
Or maybe if Jimmy gets the last 3, the Heat would’ve won
The good thing about the Celtics is that they’ve been consistently putting themselves in a position to win.
Of course the other top teams are pretty good too, so a little luck/randomness might be needed. This is true for the other teams as well.
Warriors defense. And stephen curry helped too
I don't think that the team was built to win that year, they were a couple of years too early for their own good. That first round series was a couple of shots missed from going the other direction. I think that you might be revisionist in your perception of that second round series, I think anybody watching that series knew it was Celtics vs Giannis, that became even more abundantly clear in games 6 and 7. Game 7 of the ECF against the Heat ended with Jimmy Butler missing a 3 that could have changed the outcome. I never saw them as favorites in most of their series.
This year however they do seem to have a lot of tools available to take it all, they probably have the best defensive back court in the league, their bench is their weakest point and I would like for them to maybe move Horford for a usable big. Horford turns 38 at the end of the year and if they have him at the 5 he will be getting abused all year by bigger guys for sure, will he be able to withstand all the minutes they will demand from him during the regular season and then carry that into the postseason.
Also the Warriors were better at that point, their players just unlocked themselves, like who the fuck would have thought Wiggins was going to show up that huge in the playoffs when his track record in the playoffs before playing with the Warriors was nonexistent with the Wolves.
Its like asking why the 2016 warriors blew a 3-1 lead after going 73-9 for the season
Warriors are a dynasty. Been there done that.
Casuals saying Steph, and like yeah he is the reason the Warriors were there to begin with but the real answer is Wiggins. He did an incredible job on Tatum. Poole won them a game too
Because Steph Curry
They played a team that shut them down defensively and also had enough offense carried by Steph to push them over the top. Warriors top to bottom were a little worse talent wise, but they were more consistent. Wiggins gave Tatum a lot problems defensively and the Celtics were stretched into multiple wars before getting to the finals. It’s hard win a title going to war with the bucks and heat like that. You run out of gas
The answer is Steph and Draymond. Steph is one of the best offensive players ever, and Draymond is a good PnR partner and one of the best defensive players ever.
Steph carried on offense but that was a defensive clinic. The Jays got clamped so hard.
Because drop coverage on Steph is the dumbest plan in the world.
Warriors were on a mission and they weren't gonna let anyone stop them. That team didn't even let a series go to 7.
Steph did Steph. He was playing like a top level player. And noone on the Celtics could match him.
And the warriors defense was suffocating. Your had Draymond, Wiggins, looney and GP completely shutting down their offense.
Caused Tatum got clamped by Wiggins, and steph was being steph