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The skyrocketing cost of insurance premiums in Florida is leading residents to drop their insurance, consider selling their home, and even move out of the state, according to recent reports.

For years now, the sunny, vibrant state has been a magnetic destination for many Americans—a phenomenon which has been driving up demand for housing, especially during the pandemic, as well as home prices.

But while Florida was the number one state in the country that people moved to in 2022, it was also the one with the highest number of residents wanting to relocate, according to a SelfStorage.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 117 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's a good thing their Republican Leaders are working hard to help them with this issue.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Obviously woke insurance companies are to blame!

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 108 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Can we build a wall to prevent them crossing the border to America?

[–] spacecadet@lemm.ee 37 points 11 months ago

Doesn’t matter to me, they think I live in a third world communist hell hole so they won’t move where I live anyway. Never thought I would say this but… thank you Fox News!

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 10 points 11 months ago

Maybe we can cut the whole peninsula off and refer to it as the Great Castration.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 93 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Sell their homes to who? Is this like a NFT, always a bigger fool, kind of thing?

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 60 points 11 months ago

Fucking Aquaman?

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 49 points 11 months ago (5 children)

To landlords, who will charge arbitrarily high rent, secure in the knowledge that they aren't in a free market due to inelasticity of demand (people can't do without shelter) and supply (there are finite places to live). That will let them pay the insurance premiums homeowners can't afford.

[–] tissek@ttrpg.network 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Premiums they will then offload onto renters keeping their margins.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Landlords are not immune from the market. It’s not truly inelastic in that people have a choice of where to live. Climate change will eventually suppress demand and thus prices for many parts of Florida.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Republicans who want to jerk off to DeSantis and let some racial slurs fly without social opprobrium.

That's who has been moving there since 2020 or so.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 87 points 11 months ago (5 children)

They were laughing at Californians when it was happening to us (very very recently) thinking that it was the result of "liberal policymaking".

Well, how does it feel, Florida? Are you ready to put aside our differences and go after our real common enemy, the for-profit insurance industry and climate deniers? Because I promise you, this is only going to get worse unless we force them to change things.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure DeSantis can fix this by just "fighting woke" more, right? /s

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (6 children)

He probably does think that. He could spin rising premiums as speculation based on climate change belief.

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[–] willis936@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Honestly I'm on team insurance in these cases. The US is filthy rich and we have tons of highly habitable land. Why are we wasting resources subsidizing some people choosing to live in comfortable, risky locations?

For those stuck in poverty: that does suck but I consider that an independent issue.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Free hand of the market is giving them an invisible bitchslap.

Soon they'll be "free" from insurance.

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[–] OhmsLawn@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's interesting to me that insurance companies are becoming the chief drivers of the preparation for climate change: "Wanna build a house in the woods? On a sandbar? GTFO. Use your own money."

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Since humans invented math and fossil fuels, this moment was inevitable. The writing has been on the wall in Florida for ten years.

I forgot the actual statistics, but it's something crazy. Like Florida constitutes 8% of the country's homeowners insurance policies, but 80% of all homeowners insurance litigation. Florida real estate is a ponzi scheme now.

They've got miles and miles and miles of roads in Florida lined with 10-million dollar, beachfront houses, all of which will sooner than later be buried under 25 ft of seaweed for the next thousand years. The question is who will be left holding the bag on all that risk?

I'm certain the Republicans in the Florida legislature will let the insurance companies off of the hook before too long here, and will leave working people holding a bunch of worthless real estate, just waiting for climate catastrophe to wipe everything away.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Whatever it takes to finally get people to realize that living in a disaster zone is a terrible idea.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (4 children)

How many more years before all of Earth is a disaster zone?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The current crisis isn't so much about climate change as it is an insurance market so rampant with fraudulent roof damage claims that the market can't bear it. FL legislature tried to correct this but before the law took effect a flood of claims were filed.

Climate change will only make this worse, ofc.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

My understanding is that the substantial majority of roof damage claims were legitimate and attributable to predatory roofing companies that would finance and install new roofs after a storm at a huge discount, they'd install a shitty fucked up roof, then would sell the debt to a third party servicer, and then the roofing company would close up shop, rebrand under a new name, and do it again. By the time the roof fails, the original company is long gone leaving the homeowner and the insurers holding the bag.

The legislature and the insurers realized they had a impending consumer crisis and loosened the laws about paying these claims, and essentially opened the door to the fraud.

I wonder if the real issue at this point is that Florida just attracts fraudsters. It was their laws that allowed contractors to have a revolving door of LLC's.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 53 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] neuropean@kbin.social 37 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I mean rebuilding houses in regions every 5-20 years was never gonna come out on top.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Not being able to sell them (except for 10 cents on the dollar of what they paid) when they cannot be insured will be the next shock.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It won't be long, and in Florida the cost for the mortgage will be neglectable in comparison to the costs of insurance.

The big downside will be that Floridians will move out of Florida and spread elsewhere. Maybe it is time for Georgia and Alabama to invest in a massive fence?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Negligible.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Insurance typically works off historical data to evaluate risk from my understanding, and having something as disastrous as the Miami beach condo collapse bodes a bad sign for insurance companies, especially given the terrible and absolutely incompetent rescue effort during the aftermath.

By the way, I'm shocked at how quickly the Miami condo collapse left the news cycle.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Iirc Florida passed some kind of law requiring coverage no matter where a structure is. And the only way the companies could make it work was massive premium increases because the places they're being forced to cover literally have to be rebuilt every year. This was after the federal government said it wouldn't offer disaster insurance on those zones anymore.

[–] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 18 points 11 months ago (8 children)

To be fair to Florida, that condo was built pre-Andrew and they revised their entire building code after Andrew. There aren't too many large building built pre-Andrew anymore because they were all built as cheap as possible to laundrr drug money.

That being said, there are a million reasons why i would never move to Florida, and the only building codes that can prevent your house getting inundated by flood surge is by putting it on stilts, so no shocker that the premiums are skyrocketing. Same with fire insurance in California right now.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

The building collapse was due to bad building code for sure; however, the apathy that followed the tragedy, both from rescue workers and the public at large, was really disheartening.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's the free market meeting climate change. It will get worse.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

You voted for it.. You get what you get, and you don't get upset.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (15 children)

lol @ all the people who fled the northeast because “Florida is cheap…”

Even the second place finisher of the Carolinas has gotten too expensive.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So much for DeathSantis utopia. Go back to Florida and don’t bring your Nazi politics to my state.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

40% of voting Floridians voted against DeSantis, Florida is also the state with the third highest Jewish population, I'm fairly certain that nowhere near all of Florida has "Nazi" politics.

Maybe try not sounding like an ignorant by generalizing the third most populated state, which is also just as mixed as the other three most populated states. You're just sounding like those idiots that bitch about how California is all "liberal" while ignoring the conservative North Cali and all of the Neo-Con enclaves and Nazis in between.

Sure the Florida GOP are pretty much Nazi-lite, but there's a shitload of Florida citizens who are not them and completely disagree with them and are doing what they can to push back against them.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

according to a SelfStorage

Lol, what?

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s a storage unit company, so presumably they have their own moving service or often connect people with other moving services. They’d be able to see the trend

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah... that still seems like some extremely flimsy evidence to base an article on.

Edit - didn't notice this was from Newsweek. "Journalism"

Maybe I should connect them with my local bartender. He's full of information. Qualification? He talks to people.

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Would be sick if we could pull a Looney Tunes and saw the fucking thing off from the rest of us. Let it float away and sink into the Atlantic.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to saw it off, climate change should take care of it.

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[–] fleabomber@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This isn't just a Florida problem.

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