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Hi everyone, I use Linux on all my machines since a decade. Unfortunately my laptops are getting older and I will probably have to change them soon. Which Laptops would you recommend me to buy in 2025 a part Librem?

I don't have a high budget but I'm still looking for something relatively recent. I looked on H-node but it seems that there are not a lot of recent things.

I use Debian as a distro.

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[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 1 points 11 minutes ago (2 children)

I have an all amd alienware m17 r5 I got $2000 off at around 1200$ pretty fire, 6850mxt = 3080 laptop, ive had no issues running most things, msfs needs hella tweaking on windows but past that even vr stuff mostly works fine

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 1 points 8 minutes ago

I recentlly swapped to cachyos, works way better than windows, had hella driver issues on windows, I forgot and reinstalled my windows os (shrunken partition, just in case I need it) had the same issues.

All I've had to download is like two extensions in the package manager for the amd gpu to work in blender, everywhere else it workd well instantly (because of cachyos and all it installs)

[–] Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

Frameworks cool if you can afford it, but if you want the best perfomance/deals, then laptops go on sale for half off or 70% off often, you just gotta check daily since they sell out within the day for those deals

Give yourself a month to look at deals, its around week 3 for me where I usually purchasep

[–] Bananable@feddit.nl 3 points 11 minutes ago

Thinkpad t480, they can be found pretty cheap second hand, then install libreboot. Can be upgraded with 64 GB of ram and a 4K screen.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 7 points 3 hours ago

They're a bit expensive up front, but I'm really enjoying my Framework.

[–] daytonah@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

I had system76 and now on tuxedo. I will buy tuxedo again...

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Currently in the process of fixing up my old Asus TUF FX505DU with Debian & KDE Plasma.

Setting up Nvidia Optimus would be a pain if it weren’t for Envy Control, run one command and boom GPU’s speak nicely to one another.

[–] Arehandoro@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Do you want mainstream brands that work well with Linux? Lenovo or Dell

Do you want smaller brands that are specialised and support Linux? Tuxedo, System76, Slimbook, Purism...

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

I want to support tuxedo, as an European brand, but the last one I bought had such a shitty screen that got worse and worse over the years. They seem to have improved the hardware somewhat but the experience left a bad taste in my mouth.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago

Tuxedo is a bit hit or miss. Used one for 2 years and wasn't happy with the case quality. The plastic basically broke at some edges and screw holes

The hardware also wasn't as Linux compatible as they claim. 5Ghz wifi just didn't work reliably. With their support page saying the fix is to disable 5Ghz

[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Been happy with my Purism Librem 14, and soon they'll have a 16". I think today, I'd probably buy their 11" tablet. Perfect travel size and you don't need to put it away during takeoff and landing of flights.

[–] PancakeBrock@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

I bought the Asus Tuf A16 AMD Advantage laptop. I installed Arch on it and it's been great. Got it for $600 on eBay. Put 32gb of RAM in it and a 2tb nvme drive into the second slot. Left the 512gb drive it came with.

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 hours ago

I personally buy refurbished. Lately I got a Lenovo X280 thinkpad, for $160 with 8 GB of RAM, 1080p screen. Worked fine, Linux flies on it.

[–] chrand@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

If you have budget, Thinkpads can't go wrong. You can also find refurbished.

Tuxedo and Framework are also excellent choices.

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

I have had a Tuxedo InfinityBook 14 Gen7, and I've been happy with it. They focus on hardware that has a good compatibility with Linux, so it works well out of the box without any tinkering. You say you don't have a high budget though, so these might be too expensive (I believe you can get similar specs at a lower price), but I've also been very satisfied with the after sales service they have provided - I've had some issues with it since I got it, but if it was Tuxedo specific (or appeared to me to be Tuxedo specific), and thus not easy to find general troubleshooting help online, I contacted them and I was helped out promptly, both via e-mail and the phone.

[–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe not what you're looking for, but I use Asahi Linux on an old M1 MacBook Air and it's quite nice. I bought it used for $480 last year.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Does everything work on it? Sleep/hibernate too?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

Pretty sure the mic does not work if you need to have video meetings.

[–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 2 points 5 hours ago

I think hibernate is a missing function - I've never tried it though. Here's a good write-up on the pros/cons and potential issue depending on your use case :
https://www.anuragrao.site/blog/05-asahi-linux

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm loving my Framework, have Mint on there. Thinkpads are also well regarded I believe

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah but new ThinkPads comes with soldered RAMs. Even mostly all brands do the same. I think framework don't do it

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Whether a Thinkpad has soldered RAM or not is model-by-model thing. When I was laptop shopping I tried to stick to the only non-soldered ones, but they are definitely more expensive, as they are the higher-end models. I absolutely cannot wait for CAMM to, if it ever does, become a normal thing for RAM modules.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 2 points 8 hours ago

Framework hasn't done that yet. They have an event in 3 days and a lot of people seem to be thirsting for a Strix Halo main board, though.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 9 points 14 hours ago

Go to an electronics recycling center and get a retired thinkpad (or 5). Once they’re decommissioned by corporations, they wipe the drive and send them off to be recycled.

[–] lambipapp@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've been eyeing the slimbook lineup as of late. I am just waiting for someone to drop a review of the slimbook creative.

[–] Moltz@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

That logo on the bezzel, though

😬

[–] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago
[–] gbin@lemmy.ca 54 points 22 hours ago (14 children)

Try Framework.

You'll get a laptop sized to your budget and you'll be able to grow with it, upgrade any part your budget will allow in the future.

Their linux support is excellent.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yes, Framework!

It's great, works perfectly, and you support something (principals, ways) worth supporting!
Something what won't lead to/support further enshitification of all the things.
(And we might even get usable RISC–V laptops fairly soon - to even further ditch megacorps.)

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[–] tiny@midwest.social 7 points 15 hours ago

Depends on budget but if your budget is above $800 get a framework they are awesome and work great with Linux if your budget is below that look at an e series Thinkpad or used thinkpad on eBay that fits your budget

[–] jamesbunagna@discuss.online 7 points 16 hours ago

Consider taking a look at this criminally underrated Linux-first vendor: NovaCustom. Prices aren't cheap, unfortunate. But it boasts hardware from about a year ago. Furthermore, NovaCustom takes Libre very seriously: from supporting coreboot to offering blob-free WiFi-cards.

[–] iz_ok@sh.itjust.works 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I bought a Framework laptop then threw Pop OS on it. I have no issues. They sell refurbished devices and they are modular so you can swap out whatever is giving you issues.

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[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 7 points 17 hours ago

You can get a used thinkpad T480 off eBay for ~$150. I've dropped it multiple times and spilled orange juice on it and it works perfectly fine. No issues running Linux mint Debian edition. Main drawback is the fan which isn't the most efficient at cooling, but it is upgradeable.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

Used ThinkPad's are pretty common on Ebay.

They're what I use. Also with Debian.

"Recent" is a factor of how much you're willing to shell out.

$300.00USD will get you a good Debian compatible box. You may want to then replace the battery and/or add RAM. Those are both found inexpensively also.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 17 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)
[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I unfortunately had disabling experiences with the System76 Pangolin (12). Since then I would absolutely not recommend System76.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 2 points 8 hours ago

I had a galago pro and it was not well built. It fell apart faster than any other laptop I've used.

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[–] hossein@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 15 hours ago

If something supports linux-libre kernel, it supports all distros. See https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Hardware-Considerations.html

Also: https://www.h-node.org/

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