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Around min 40-45 from Podcast P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRARbd0RElQ

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[–] aiirxgeordan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Nah Russ is my second favorite player of all time, but I’m confident I can name 25 players better than he is right now, though. 70+? I don’t think so

[–] thesonicvision@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I wanted to be fair, so I just revisited ESPN's Top 50.

Honestly, no room for him there. Every single player there is currently more valuable than Westbrook is (in the eyes of coaches, scouts, and front office personnel).

Top 75 makes sense for him. *Shrugs*.

[–] MJaylenBrown7@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

For sure top 25 player if the top 100 guys all died

[–] Durden93@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Russ is a bench contributor in extremely limited contexts. I’m not convinced that one of those contexts is a title contender.

[–] logone22@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird. Teams don't usually go from the lottery to the wcf by dropping a top 25 player. Something isn't adding up here

[–] rznballa@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russ wasn't the reason yall were bad

[–] logone22@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He wasn't the reason but he was a reason

[–] chugalaefoo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lol yea he was.

When he bricks 10 shots and turns it over 5 times, that’s literally 15 wasted possessions.

Not even counting his dumb, non existent ball watching D.

[–] BetweenTheBuzzAndMe@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If he was top 25, the Clippers wouldn't have gotten him for the chump change he's making.

That said, I do believe he's got a quality argument for top 50 and it's the biggest bargain contract in the NBA right now.

[–] XrShJjXxE4ouwB@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The 3rd best player on most teams is not in the top 50, just based on math. You cannot seriously believe Russ is a Top 50 player.

[–] Wind_14@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are 30 teams in the NBA. Being top 50 means you're either the 2nd best man in playoff-tier team or a tank commander on a bad team. Russ won't even be the best player on Spurs(who just got no. 1 pick), I guess you can argue of being in competition in Portland, but even Blazers would rather treat Scoot as true no. 1 over Russ. That's 2 of the worst team last season, and Russ can't even be no. 1 in there. So something like top 100 is where Russ currently resides, which seems fair.

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[–] WhenItsHalfPastFive@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Russ is Top 25 player - easy

If you genuinely believe this in October of 2023, you don't watch basketball.

[–] pskill43@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of nba players don’t watch basketball when they are not playing

[–] duplicatesnowflake@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They play every team lol. Court side view of every player in the league.

They don’t need to watch random games on TV to rate players.

Playing and even watching film is different than watching the games.

[–] rayray1010@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Did you watch the suns/clippers series?

[–] KingNephew@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Current Westbrook somehow has a low floor and low ceiling lol

[–] CynicalMindTrip@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Paul being nice with his friend. It’s okay.

[–] nowhathappenedwas@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People are underrating the likelihood of toxicity if Westbrook sucks and the team benches him. Clippers' fans will say it's not a problem because they can just cut him, but George will likely be pissed.

[–] TP_Cornetto@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

He’s obviously not top 25 but is he really 93? Seems like a lot of commenters are missing the point in this thread

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[–] MrThreebound@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] johnjohnjohn93@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Where is Westbrook ranked in terms of salary? He’s not valued and his game is probably not conducive to winning come the postseason.

[–] Arooooooooooooooo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Hate to say it but I agree with Podcast P. Russ is def a top 25 PG in the league right now.

[–] justsomeguy5@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

aint no way. AINT NO WAY. not even a Westbrook hater, for real. I'm not. I'm purely looking at how he played last season, 2022-23 season. No. Top 25? Somebody post that Stephen A Smith Lamar Odom clip. I get gassing up your teammates to instill confidence in them, but come the fuck on. Not even saying Westbrook hasn't been nice in his career. He clearly has been, there's no question about that. But the Westbrook that averaged a triple-double, won MVP, was an absolute menace on the fast break, that Westbrook is not the Westbrook of today.

No hate, just facts.

Russ signed a 2yr/$8M this offseason. Maybe he could’ve gotten more on another team, but idk it wasn’t like he had a lot of suiters. PG is just dapping up his teammate, all good, but ESPN ranking him 70th is honestly probably even higher than the general consensus in NBA front offices.

[–] disscusting@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone needs a friend like Paul George

[–] MegatonDeathclaws@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lol no he isn’t

[–] lialialia20@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

imagine thinking there's 93 guys in the league rn that can average 23.6 pts 7.6reb 7.4ast 1.2stl 1.4blk on 4tov playing 38.4mpg against a superior team in the playoffs

for reference cp3 who's 20 positions ahead of russ in that list averaged 12.4 pts 5reb 7.4ast 1.7stl 0.7blk on 1tov playing 35.7mpg with 5 of the 7 games being against an inferior team and that's without counting he's injury prone and can never actually complete a postseason run unlike russ

[–] fatkamp@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Calling us stupid yet using TS% to show that Westbrook should be…higher?

CP3 is a better player, we all know this. You’re using Westbrooks shooting splits, which are terrible but also the defense is applauding having him shoot instead of Kawhi/PG/Reaves/Lebron/AD. Like that’s the whole damn point

95 of the top 100 players could score 23 on 50% TS. Nobody wants that

[–] _3_8_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t want someone to score 24 points on 50% true shooting. That means they have 24 scoring attempts per game and are a bad shooter

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[–] orangesodazz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Not even Paul believes this lol.

[–] Yandhi42@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Remember when Melo was ranked like 63 and everyone said it was disrespectful af, but it ended up being kind of generous

Not saying Westbrook deserves that ranking though

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[–] ColdCocking@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

shouldn't have cracked the top 100

[–] superdraws@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

"That's disrespectful. We're also trying to trade for Harden who plays the same position as Russ because Russ is unplayable at the end of games.#Top 25."

[–] IamInternationalBig@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Alex_O7@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah and according to my mom I'm the most beautiful dude on earth...

[–] chickenstew907@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Fairly certain he’s not even top 100 anymore

[–] Vatfagyna@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He was def misranked. Those ranks are stupid as fuck. I’m not a Russ fan but they put hella dudes in front of him that don’t deserve it. Also, putting rookies in these rankings is dumb. We can only guess what they’ll be lookin like this season. How many first pick busts have we seen? We’ve also seen some late first rounders that were legit

[–] Novel_Board_6813@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I’m just surprised at people saying that Russ was a top 25 player, like he was a Kyrie/Khris/Jamal type of player

Russ was among the best of the best. Probably top 5ish/7ish and maybe better for a long while.

When OKC was winning 3-1 against the Warriors, Russ looked like the best player in the world alongside Bron (Steph, KD and Klay were playing in the same games).

From about 2014 to 2017 or so, the only players on the same tier (after Bron) would probably have been Steph, CP3, Harden, KD and maybe Kawhi… And not all of them would be peaking at the same time.

Russ was really really good.

[–] Yamato4strawhat@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Top 50-60 for sure. Not trying to hate on Russ it’s just he has regressed and the league is very talented atm

[–] Misterstaberinde@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Curious to see Playoff P's top 25.

[–] bbqyak@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Name 24 then. We're waiting.

[–] thassa1@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If he did the exercise of listing he would find that’s untrue. It’s a good exercise bc it’s always tougher than you think

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