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Why does it feel that the evil sides globally are winning. Even evil people are winning. Why?

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 230 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The common version of the phrase...

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”

The actual version of the phrase...

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."

[–] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (8 children)

A favourite of mine on that theme is from Boondock Saints (1999)

Now we must all fear evil men.
But there is another kind of evil.
Which we must fear. Most.
And that is the indifference of good men.

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I saw a chart that globally, the incumbent parties have lost more in these elections than before. Incumbents are down across the globe https://www.ft.com/content/e8ac09ea-c300-4249-af7d-109003afb893

I'd guess this is because things are going badly economically, so people wanted change.

[–] CascadingSymmetry@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

Also Russian has been working on promoting their hard right puppet parties globally.

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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

The world has been in a gigantic psychological experiment.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

Change requires a massive push, and apparently people need to suffer much much more, to inspire that momentum.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because the slow decay of the capitalist order that has been occurring since the neoliberal turn has reached the point where it's effects are being felt in the global North

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

You probably feel that way because this is what it feels like when evil wins.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Because the return of massive wealth disparity - similar to having kings again - has allowed those with money and power to bend the world in the direction of some form of dictatorship, whether it be fascism, oligarchy, whatever…. The New Kings are carving up society and want to increase control and profit, and an authoritarian governance is the way to do it. Just like how they treat their corporations. They are dictators, the little people are disposable production units to feed their machine.

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[–] gon@lemm.ee 121 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I saw on Mastodon someone say something kinda like this: good people don't feel the need to dominate others.

Evil isn't "winning" as much as it is "on top." If you look around, talk to your neighbours and such, you'll see that good and reasonable people are everywhere; good is the overwhelming majority.

That being said, positions of power are chased and coveted by those obsessed with power, and those aren't good people. Good people need to take charge, but it's


in a way


against their nature to do so.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (16 children)

good is the overwhelming majority.

Let the overwhelming centrist majority in 1930's Germany tell you otherwise. People who peacefully ignore evil, even if it's preserve their own safety, are not good at heart. People just don't want trouble or disturbance, that's why people are naturally kind from day to day. But ignoring the piles of bodies while saying "no politics at the dinner table" is literally how the holocaust happened - the majority failed to act.

1930's Germany at least had the excuse of limited information/education, all they had was radio from which only Hitler's voice was present. 100 years later with the worlds knowledge at our fingertips, ignorance to politics is a choice. Might I say an evil one, all things considered.

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[–] match@pawb.social 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

when evil is winning on your nation's scale it feels like it's winning globally. is evil winning in rojava? in southeast asia? is evil winning in the spanish speaking world?

for that matter, what's going on at your state level, or at your city level?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

is evil winning in rojava? in southeast asia? is evil winning in the spanish speaking world? for that matter, what’s going on at your state level, or at your city level?

Yes.

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[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Because westerners are obsessed with good vs. Evil for absolutely no reason.

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[–] 7dev7random7@suppo.fi 24 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I just talked to my superior about the most urgent thing EU countries are facing currently. I should add that he is 100% disabled but studied in CS and reads everything which is interesting to him and his world view.

When I said that social media dictates the discussions and the media, we agreed on the thought after a short period.

And if we could solve this issue we mostlikely would get awarded a noble price.

What I am trying to say: Social media is run by - at least - flawed people. And used by the evil ones to their maximum, putting the honest Ones into a position to explain.

We are loosing our discourse, we are mixing our cultures - or we split at our ethics.

Social media is a cancer with no current treatment. Civilians will be in favor of social media since it also benefits society directly. But we are diminishing other things with it.

Maybe there will be one more brilliant mind educated who may aid us in these times.

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[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

because armmaggeton

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Evil use to hide - but through Trump's no filter twitter postings, Musk's self-aggrandizing incompetence, and Russia's realization that they no longer have to hide their evil-doing, a lot of the evil these days is just out in the open.

Imagine a world where a competent president is hiding behind close doors planning a way to defund USAID and starve millions of people. Planning behind close doors cutting medicare by 1 trillion dollars, killing thousands of Americans, and using that money to fund a trillion dollar tax break for the mega rich. You wouldn't know any of that is happening.

Now it is front page news, and people are reacting by boycotting Amazon for one day on the 28th.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

Evil use to hide

You should check out the history of the USA some time.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

But you know what evil is also good for??

MERCHANDISING! MERCHANDISING!!

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[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My opinion on this generally boils down to that the system has been set up to reward evil/antisocial behavior, and this part of the system is so entrenched and well established and organized that it has not been effectively and completely toppled or eradicated in so long, it has been able to consolidate power and resources to a point where very few extremely evil people are personally in charge of so much of what happens that it seeps into everything. Actually "seeps" is the wrong word, it's injected into everything. It's like has been said many times in recent memory, the cruelty is the point.

For a simplified example, evil executives reward evil behavior by their managers, who in turn punish their employees, who lose control of so much of their lives to these companies and managers that they end up hurting their families and friends out of confusion and anger and other complex emotional reactions, and harm is perpetuated in every area of life.

It's self sustaining, and even worse it replicates itself. In some ways I think of these systems as viruses. Also as cults. We all buy in to some degree.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A ruling class of ultra wealthy lording over the vast majority of people who are left with crumbs is a common sign that an empire is in decline. With the US having more global influence than any previous empire, the whole world will be feeling the effects in one way or another.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago

Wealth inequality caused by all the things mentioned here and more. It allows the wealthy to control narrative that is fed to the masses, control the amount of free time people have to think and control how much pressure is placed on your lives.

The free thinking world is gone.

But the '3 meals away from a revolution' is always true and the rich will always get more greedy. When everyone no longer has the ability to free themselves, that's when a lot of heads will roll.

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