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[–] loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com 108 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Oh man.

Quark is absolutely backwards: Quark believes he has no dignity and is a heartless profiteer. He turns out he is an empathetic lovable guy with dignity.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Grilka episodes show this best. The House of Quark is an honorable one.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Quark: I should've listened to my cousin Gaila. He said to me, "Quark, I've got one word for you...weapons." No one ever went broke selling weapons. But did I take his advice? No. And why not? Because I'm a people person. I like interacting with my customers. Like you and I are doing right now. Talking to each other, getting to know one another...

Garak: I can see the attraction...for you.

Quark: But when you're dealing in weapons, buyers aren't interested in casual conversation. They just want their merchandise, no questions asked. It's so impersonal.

Garak: Your charms would be wasted.

Quark: Exactly. So now Gaila owns his own moon, and I'm staring into the abyss. And the worst part is, my only hope for salvation is the Federation.

At least his fortunes seemed to have changed by Lower Decks' time, judging by all the Quark signs everywhere.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Hard for them not to when you’re the former Grand Nagus, step son of the former long time Grand Nagus, and brother of the new Grand Nagus.

I’m sure Moogy helped him out to once Rom passed a few reforms.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I haven’t counted, but I have a suspicion that of the main cast, personally Quark kills more Jem’Hader on screen than any other character, except for maybe Worf.

Seriously. Watch with that in mind. I think Quark might be a low key badass.

[–] Actaeon@artemis.camp 78 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Garak is a simple tailor. He resolves an impossible situation in the least tailorly way possible yet somehow maintains plausible deniability.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I remember one episode when he is not on drugs, and starts telling truths to everybody. That one explains him.

[–] PooPooButterPancakes@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well no actually. In that episode he tells Bashir at least three different contradictory stories. Though right before Garrak thinks he's about to die he tells Bashir that he was really ashamed because he fucked over his best friend and we're lead to believe this is the actual final truth. Then you later find out the friend's name he gave Bashir was actually just Garrak's own first name and that every story Garrak told was a likely a complete fabrication. In the end we know nothing more definitive about him or why he's at the station.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We know a lot more about him. Just not about his past.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 13 points 11 months ago

Everything he said was true, especially the lies.

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[–] flatplutosociety@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

the least tailorly way possible

I don't know, I think he usually finds a way to thread the needle.

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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Jake naively and brashly tries to explore some aspect of himself for personal growth...

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

The one thing that I always remember about Jake Sisko was an episode where he was trying to hide something from his dad, and at the end of the episode, dear old dad catches him trying to teach a young Ferengi how to read.

[–] IAmHisBiggestSpoon@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Jake ended up being my least disliked Star Trek child actor. He wasn't always great, but he is miles above Wesley.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 11 months ago

Jake and Nog felt like they were written to be actual teenagers growing up. When they get in over their heads, it is believable. And when they grew up, they became fleshed out characters.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Everyone in-universe feels about Jake the way that everyone out of universe feels about Wesley.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 43 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Kai Winn shows up and ruins the episode

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean enhances the episode with her peerless villainy.

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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: I love that for a brief moment this had a higher count, but the masses being what they are, was soon surpassed. Louise Fletcher was a master at getting people's ire.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

This woman won an Oscar, a Golden Globe, and a BAFTA for playing Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. She's so good at acting you literally dislike her character. She makes you uncomfortable.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 16 points 11 months ago

My child, don't stray from the path that the Prophets have laid out for you.

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 38 points 11 months ago

Alternative episode: Sisko believes that he can solve something in the normal, intended way and not a horrible, fucked up way. He solves it with baseball.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I haven't yet been able to watch DS9 from beginning to end .... I've seen episodes here and there but never saw the entirety.

So my question is

What about these Garrick episodes I keep hearing about?

[–] OpenStars@kbin.social 36 points 11 months ago (5 children)

From someone who did the same: there is no way to understand what DS9 is about without watching it end to end, it's just designed differently than TNG or TOS or Voyager, which were made for people to catch individual episodes and feel like they watched something. DS9 has intricate plot points that expand over an entire season, and then on into the next. I thought I knew what the show was about, but I was so very very, wonderfully wrong! Instead of it being my least favorite, I see now that it's the deepest of them all, though they all have their individual contributions, especially for the historical time they were released in.

So my advice is to wait until you have a few hours, then watch all of season 1. You'll be glad you did, and can decide when to find time to continue with season 2.

Learning about Garak will be infinitely more satisfying that way:-). He is one of the most "interesting" characters on the show, but really when you think about it, they all are.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

OK FINE I will watch DS9 again, convinced me.

Friggin Risa strikes again.

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[–] VindictiveJudge@startrek.website 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He is one of the most “interesting” characters on the show, but really when you think about it, they all are.

To borrow a quote from B5, "No one here is exactly what he appears."

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except Garek, obviously. He's merely a simple tailor.

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Garak? Why, he’s just a simple tailor

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I always loved that ... in an age of replicator technology, instant manufacturing and duplication, automated systems and digital recreations ... no one ever finds it unusual that there is an individual of the species that was a former military opponent posing as an old school clothing merchant on a space station.

It would be like having a simple humble scientist from 1940s Germany working as a common rocket engineer in the American space program in the 1960s .... weird right?

[–] dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To quote Lower Decks:

Mariner: I think it was the chef in the biolab with the sniper rifle that can shoot through walls.

Freeman: You always pick the chef.

Mariner: Yeah, because we have replicators. Why is there a chef? That's just shady.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also occasionally we remember the Marquis exist and have an episode about them. Sisko comes up with basically the same solution as always, but at least it's not the Dominion.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Yup I have to save this post. I agree with folks about Quark, however I'll add the wrinkle that the things that make Quark grow emotionally only serve too shred his dignity among the Ferengi.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Quark only had that shred of dignity because he planned to sell it to the highest bidder like any good ferengi would.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

#1. the gifted child isn't

#2. the ungifted child is

#3. horny physics war

#4. karl marx- the communist manifesto

#5. what if jesus saved palestine?

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