I'm getting Tia Trio vibes based on the description and frequency response
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I think it looks closer to the U12T than the Trio, has that same signature 3-4kHz dip, less bass than the Trio and nowhere near as wonky in the mids (although the Trio doesn't actually sound as wonky as it can graph, I have it). And U12T is the one he prefers anyway, Precog is Mr U12T.
Looks like a Hexa with a bass shelf, I'm VERY interested!
I had no idea that the Mirai was up on squig.link, as I said, I was just looking at the measurement on the product page hence my use of "vibes" and "ballpark." This in particular stood out from the product page; "The Mirai reduces the presence in the 3-4kHz range while introducing distinct peaks in the treble, especially around 10kHz and 15kHz. These specific frequencies play a pivotal role in enhancing the imaging performance of the IEMs." To paraphrase Precog speaking candidly he describes the Tia Trio's as having excellent imaging specifically because of the 1k recession (not present on the Mirai) and the series of treble peaks.
You are correct though, the FR isn't particularly close. I don't find his owning and praising of the U12t is any more relevant to this product than his selling of the U12t in lieu of the U4s though.
He has said very similar things about the U12T. I just think it's more the U12T, as that's the IEM he has owned himself for years and continually re-bought (I think he did sell it recently), and to me that's the one that it looks closer to.
Basically, the U12t wouldn't have its abnormal sense of technicalities without the scoops and peaks in its frequency response. A good example of this is its layering. The 3kHz and mid-treble scoop, contrasted to the 5kHz and upper-treble peaks are what create that enhanced sensation of instruments being further out, and sharper on the stage, around you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/10xb6wj/64audio_u12t_review_a_bit_overrated/
I have both of them, there are both 64 Audio and there are certainly commonalities. Personally I think I actually prefer the Trio, better bass and personally I don't really love that 3kHz recess, I feel it makes the U12T sound too dark (I am too old and deaf to appreciate the upper treble peaks), and the Trio has what sound like more natural and present upper mids to me. But this is why I think, it's coming more from the U12T than the Trio.
Looks like U12T bass and mids with Trio-ish treble from that graph.
Man who is buying all of these $1000+ IEMs?
To be fair, I also buy $1000- IEM's
Buying shit feels good, buying expensive shit feels great.
Why not? If you love it. People buy clothes and sneakers for 1k, the AC can cost 10k easy. You ca waste 1k for the restaurants.
The iems for 3-5k usd are honestly not much better then ones for 1k. But 500 to 1000 is a huge gap in sound. And if it is a thing you love, and it makes you happy why not?
It you guys are just in a start of you way, belive me, after a few years you will buy headphones for 1-2 usd and you will love it.
This isn’t a criticism of this specific IEM. Yea I know luxury goods exist but all of these pricey IEMs are using resin shells and the same Sonion and Knowles drivers as cheap IEMs. I know time and energy goes into designing and tuning but that’s true of every decent IEM. The cables and tips aren’t anything special and there are no visible moving parts to give a sense of quality.
I just don’t see how they can charge more than something like a ZMF Aeolus. And none of the expensive IEM companies offer more than a 2yr warranty either. 64 Audio will happily sell you a $3000 IEM with a 1yr warranty lol.
Yes, there is now a limit in the use of ba drivers that was reached 5 years ago. They give lots of detail, but dry, boring, lacking soundstage, lacking frequencys sound. This is a problems what manufacturers are trying to solve in top models. The trick is that drivers account for about 30% of the sound. Another 30% is crossover, and 30% tuning. Some models are even using dampers instead of crossover, because bad crossover can kill all the details in sound.
Most headphones that cost more than 1000 euros offer innovative technologies and a complex crossover. It is clear that there is a lot of marketing here, but open ba, beryllium, bone conduction, est, it all makes a huge difference and costs money.
Those look crazy thick
It has really stiff competition at this price range such as Monarch MK3 and 64 Audio U4s, but knowing Precog I'd say this competes really well.
Really interested. Dune was one of my favorite years ago. I now a heve Monarch and Mest. Hope for these too!
I can already say this is the best iem in its price range
So are all the collab iems in their price range 🙂
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Nice to see Precog tuning iems, but for 1K it should compete with Mest, and Monarch resolution.
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Wow. Why no info about the drivers? What driver do they use?
It’s mentioned on the product page
Headphones.com markets them with the slogan:
Balanced tuning is no longer the luxury it used to be
Bold claim for a product costing 1k bucks lol
Yeah, I'm not sure why they put that so prominently, when what they're actually saying is that this is a different take from the common balanced tuning.
First paragraph of text says this: "In today's audio landscape, balanced tuning in in-ear monitors (IEMs) may seem ubiquitous. However, the Dunu Mirai takes a divergent approach. Synonymous with its name, Mirai is intended to encapsulate the type of sound that the market might be more open to in the future—except you get to hear it now."
That makes a bit more sense, after looking at it for a second time. The slogan is just placed as if it was to market the Mirai, instead of making a general statement and offering the Mirai as a slight counterpoint.
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